High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#21698 of 24700 Re: and on safety... [syswei] by jc_volvo Dec 01, 2006 (10:30 am)
Replying to: syswei (Dec 01, 2006 4:25 am) I checked the IIHS list on the "large luxury cars" category, it did showed up in that sequence. but there might be some room for intepretaion/imagination... For example: Cadillac DTS got G/A/P in front/side/rear while Volvo s80 got G/NA(not tested)/G. So you know Volvo's rear got much better score than DTS, and the side score could put it anywhere in the list. Maybe better (as good as Audi A6?), or maybe worse. So everyone "below" volvo , including BMW 5, Accura RL..are "unknown". That's just my take on this list.. Replies to this message: syswei (Dec 01, 2006 10:43 am) syswei (Dec 01, 2006 10:47 am) tagman (Dec 01, 2006 11:46 am) clarencehollow (Dec 01, 2006 10:44 am) tagman (Dec 01, 2006 12:03 pm)
#21699 of 24700 Re: and on safety... [jc_volvo] by syswei Dec 01, 2006 (10:43 am)
Replying to: jc_volvo (Dec 01, 2006 10:30 am) You've made a very good point. I hadn't noticed that some on the list were untested for rear impact. It is probably unfair for cars that are untested on one aspect to even appear on a list with cars that have. So a revised listing would be: The ratings of OVERALL crash safety in the IIHS "large luxury cars" category: 1. Audi A6 2. Lexus GS 3. Infiniti M35/M45 4. Mercedes E class 5. Cadillac DTS And for their "midsize luxury/near luxury cars": 1. Audi A4 2. Saab 9-3 3. Lexus IS 4. BMW 3 series 5. Lexus ES 350 6. Acura TL 7. Volvo S60 8. Mercedes C class 9. Saab 9-5 10. Acura TSX 11. Lincoln MKZ 12. Jaguar X-Type Replies to this message: syswei (Dec 01, 2006 10:47 am) tagman (Dec 01, 2006 11:46 am)
#21700 of 24700 Re: and on safety... [jc_volvo] by clarencehollow Dec 01, 2006 (10:44 am)
Replying to: jc_volvo (Dec 01, 2006 10:30 am) I live in Buffalo, right beside the border and people buy cars and bring them to Canada all the time. As a general rule, used cars that are at least 15 years old can be imported from the U.S.A. and are not subject to safety and emission equipment requirements. Age is not determined by model year; the month of importation must be at least 15 years after the month of manufacture of the vehicle. If your vehicle is less than 15 years old and was manufactured for sale in the U.S., you must first determine whether it qualifies for importation. Transport Canada's Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) program ensures that qualifying vehicles are modified, inspected and certified to meet Canadian safety standards. Upon arrival at Customs, a qualifying vehicle will be entered into the RIV program. The registration fee is $197 in Quebec and $182 in other provinces. Within 45 days, the vehicle must be altered at your expense to meet Transport Canada requirements (it may need daytime running lights and metric labels for instruments, for example). You won't be able to register and license the car in Canada until it is modified and inspected. The RIV Web site contains a list of eligible vehicles and detailed information about typical modification and inspection requirements. Replies to this message: tagman (Dec 01, 2006 12:03 pm)
#21701 of 24700 Re: and on safety... [syswei] by syswei Dec 01, 2006 (10:47 am)
Replying to: syswei (Dec 01, 2006 10:43 am) It appears to me from the IIHS data that being "first" with a safety innovation (Volvo, MB) does not necessarily equate to having the safest vehicles in the world, once that innovation has been widely adopted. Replies to this message: tagman (Dec 01, 2006 11:46 am)
#21702 of 24700 Re: IIHS, Reuters, Bloomberg [brightness04] by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (11:44 am)
Replying to: brightness04 (Dec 01, 2006 10:05 am) You are just desperately trying to cover up a very badly orchestrated snide attack on Toyota/Lexus. Cover-up? Attack? Sounds like words from the Pentagon and not from this forum. BTW, I always referred to the bottom line as being relative to itself. Someone else, perhaps you, thought about it being relative to other makes. So..the bottom line still can not change, no matter what anyone ever says, including you. Just because you now finally understand the true meaning of the bottom line doesn't entitle you to use words like "desperate, snide, cover-up or attack" in reference to me. That is WAY too personal my friend and has no place on this forum. You need to let up on the Starbucks or something. Way too serious and insulting I might add... and I suggest that you do not go down that road again, or the HOST won't take too kindly to it either, and you will ruin this forum for all of us. To disagree is OK, but do it without the personal insults! Got it? TagMan Replies to this message: jcoby (Dec 01, 2006 12:32 pm) tagman (Dec 01, 2006 1:03 pm) syswei (Dec 01, 2006 1:21 pm) and 3 more...
#21703 of 24700 Re: and on safety... [syswei] by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (11:46 am)
Replying to: syswei (Dec 01, 2006 10:47 am) It appears to me from the IIHS data that being "first" with a safety innovation (Volvo, MB) does not necessarily equate to having the safest vehicles in the world, once that innovation has been widely adopted. Absolutely true. Volvo was once almost exclusive in its quest for building the safest vehicles. That is certainly not the case any more. Good point. TagMan
#21704 of 24700 Re: and on safety... [clarencehollow] by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (12:03 pm)
Replying to: clarencehollow (Dec 01, 2006 10:44 am) Transport Canada's Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) program ensures that qualifying vehicles are modified, inspected and certified to meet Canadian safety standards. Clarence, Curious... What are the safety standards in Canada that we don't have here in the States? TagMan
#21705 of 24700 Re: For the record [dhamilton] by hpowders Dec 01, 2006 (12:06 pm)
Replying to: dhamilton (Dec 01, 2006 7:32 am) And it's all in good fun! I believe everybody here has been a good sport. No need to get carried away here. It's only cars! Replies to this message: tagman (Dec 01, 2006 12:08 pm) hpowders (Dec 01, 2006 12:11 pm)
#21706 of 24700 Re: For the record [hpowders] by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (12:08 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Dec 01, 2006 12:06 pm) And it's all in good fun! you bet it is. TagMan Replies to this message: hpowders (Dec 01, 2006 12:11 pm)
#21707 of 24700 Re: And...continuing to stay on topic [2001gs430] by hpowders Dec 01, 2006 (12:09 pm)
Replying to: 2001gs430 (Dec 01, 2006 8:00 am) "Except for the breaking distance." How did they manage to test that? Drive each car into a 20 inch thick steel wall from 70 mph? I didn't read the article. So which car broke first? Replies to this message: 2001gs430 (Dec 01, 2006 12:25 pm)