Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#21615 of 24723 Re: Tag [tagman]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:25 pm)
Of course it is a chink in Toyota's armor; I do not dispute this. However, it is quite a jump to say that Toyota and Lexus make more unsafe vehicles than any other manufacturer when that statement is not supported by the official IIHS press release or through an analysis of the data presented to the public via the IIHS database. The test in question is a rear-end protection test that many competing European models ALSO performed poorly in. The vehicle test pool alluded to in the official press release is far smaller than the universe of currently available models for 2007; if a vehicle performed poorly in any other IIHS tests, it was not even mentioned. The vehicles in question all have "Good" crash test ratings in every other measure by the IIHS. The vehicles in question actually received partial praise by even being included in the press release, but they simply did not make the cut of the coveted "Top Safety Pick" award.
The IIHS has not tested every currently available model and so any conjecture that Toyota and Lexus make more unsafe vehicles than any other manufacturer (without qualification) is not correct because not every model currently on the market has been tested.
Having said that, I do believe that the IIHS data would support the conjecture that Audi, BMW, Lexus, and Mercedes all make very safe vehicles overall
#21616 of 24723 Re: High end Luxury Comparison [hpowders]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:28 pm)
Glad to be of help. Although, you should take the chance; that way you can enjoy the driving experience before you crash and burn.
#21617 of 24723 Re: Tag [dewey]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:30 pm)
First we ourselves are accused as spin masters and now Reuters/Bloomberg or whoever printed that story are also anti-TMC spin masters.
I hope this does not go to the World Court. I declare that I am innocent until proven guilty
Man, this forum sure lit up today. We need more studies for that day we all go to World Court... especially those studies that bring TMC down a notch in OVERALL ratings.
BTW, is it my imagination or did winter make an early sneak appearance this week?
#21618 of 24723 Re: High end Luxury Comparison [shop123]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:30 pm)
Perhaps a one day lease with gap insurance?
Nov 30, 2006 (9:31 pm)
Sunny and 85 degrees.
#21620 of 24723 Re: High end Luxury Comparison [hpowders]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:32 pm)
You are on to something big there. Ultra short-term leases would be cool, IMO.
#21621 of 24723 Re: High end Luxury Comparison [tagman]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:34 pm)
Seriously, I would love to be able to lease for 6 months.
Two new cars a year sounds about right.
#21622 of 24723 Re: Tampa [hpowders]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:36 pm)
Low 60's here daytime, but nighttime is freakin 30's.
Tampa sounds gooooooood, especially at night.
#21623 of 24723 Re: High end Luxury Comparison [hpowders]
Nov 30, 2006 (9:37 pm)
I agree. That would be so cool. I wouldn't have to keep taking these big hits on trading in too darned often. And, I could drive many more cars in my lifetime that I would love to drive.
Nov 30, 2006 (9:38 pm)
Snow,10 degrees, 25 mph wind. I think it just stopped snowing. What a wierd storm. Total snow from 1 inch on the north side of KC to over a foot on the south side. About 6 inches at my house. Brrrr...
Look out, the storm is heading north and east.