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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#21115 of 24723 My next car will have to be branded Tiffany
Nov 17, 2006 (9:23 am)
OK Pat and Kirstin,
here is some very HELC focused material:
This year, just 92 seconds passed before Neiman sold out of its 50 limited-edition 2007 BMW 6 Series convertibles, with a 500-horsepower engine and $139,000 price tag (trip to Germany included) -- the speed and the price set a Neiman record. On Tuesday, Saks sold out of its 20 "Saks Special Edition" CL600 Mercedes-Benz cars for $160,000 apiece within 7 minutes and 45 seconds of the designated 2 p.m. sales time, a spokesperson says.
SOURCE:WALL STREET JOURNAL
Individual buyers getting hot over Neiman or Saks branded car? I guess that says quite a lot about the type of individual that buys such a car.
Personally I prefer the logos M, AMG, S(Audi) or RS especially if that logo is on an authentic M, AMG, S or RS vehicle.
#21116 of 24723 Re: My next car will have to be branded Tiffany [dewey]
Nov 17, 2006 (9:27 am)
What!!?? No Lexus and a trip to Tokyo?
#21119 of 24723 Re: My next car will have to be branded Tiffany [tagman]
Nov 17, 2006 (9:43 am)
And these 6 Series and CL buyers were not even interested in any MB and BMW lease deals. Imagine that?
#21120 of 24723 Re: Jaguar is NUMERO UNO [dewey]
Nov 17, 2006 (9:48 am)
Jaguar quality did not improve while it was independent. The turn-around took place after Ford take-over. Both Jag and Ford can lose a ton of money in the short term, but so long as Ford has the cash flow, as I mentioned before, and willing to lend that cash flow to support Jag, to the tune of billions (dwarfing the entire revenue from the Jag brand itself), Jag quality should be fine.
Absolutely agree that sales service is one area even the lower-volume players can really compete on level ground with the higher volume makers. If Ford is committed to Jag, a new XJ can be a very compelling choice among HELC cars.
#21121 of 24723 Re: My next car will have to be branded Tiffany [dewey]
Nov 17, 2006 (9:56 am)
The world would be a much kinder place for MB and BMW if Niemen Marcus and Saks could sell 20,000, not 20, of those cars at those prices. Uniqueness is certainly a good selling point under certain circumstances. Some Ferrari and Lambo models are sold out for years ahead. That does not mean however either Ferrari or Lambo can maintain independence, much less making their cars reliable The last sentence is a joke; do people who get Ferrari and Lambo even care reliability?
#21122 of 24723 Re: Jaguar is NUMERO UNO [brightness04]
Nov 17, 2006 (10:00 am)
a new XJ can be a very compelling choice among HELC.
I completely agree with that post. I have previously posted in great detail here as well as on the Jag forum about the merits of purchasing a Jag XJ, most particularly at that and still this point in time. History will prove this to be one of the best windows in time to acquire a Jaguar XJ.
At the time I made those detailed posts, the XK had not quite been released yet, but I would now say that the XK appears to be a terrific purchase opportunity, although I would not say that it is quite the same as the XJ opportunity. For what you can get, and the deal that can be made, the XJ can be a steal.
#21123 of 24723 Re: Ala Merc plant dissappointing, but not state's fault[merc1] [thegraduate] [merc1] [brightness04] [2001gs430] [designman] [tagman]
Nov 17, 2006 (11:07 am)
Tag, TMC knows what it's doing to make big $ selling cars ( I could only wish that I already own a big chunk of this company ). I will be more than happy to upgrade my GS to one of the new LS460/600 vanilla in the near future. I am a strong believer that every man/woman should be able to have a minimum of 3 vehicles in his/her garage, one of them should be a luxo cruiser like the LS or the S class that offer absolute comfort to the occupants, the second one should be a sporting machine such as a Corvette or an 911 turbo, and the last choice should be a utility vehicle that can be any thing depending on your needs.
I have commented on this subject before, that switching between these more "focused" vehicle types would make you appreciate each of them even more. IMO, life is dull if you tried to compromise and stuck with same car every day.
#21124 of 24723 Re: Ala Merc plant dissappointing, but not state's fault[merc1] [thegraduate] [merc1] [brightness04] [2001gs430] [designman] [tagman] [2001gs430]
Nov 17, 2006 (11:44 am)
Sounds like my garage.
I agree with the idea of different TYPES of vehicles. I've posted that in the past, as have others. However, that said, I highly doubt that our individual choices would be the same.
Closest I can imagine to an all-in-one vehicle would be perhaps an X5 , Range Rover Sport, or a Cayenne.