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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
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#21078 of 24723 Re: One Happy Family you all are with the HELM [designman]
by oac
Nov 16, 2006 (4:55 pm)
Hi Oac! What's your story these days? Are you getting an LS460 or what? I think you said you would wait awhile. I see it's been slow over in Lexico. By the way, there's a Chinese restaurant near us that makes a dish called Happy Family.
Hi Designman/Howard:
The story is real simple. My 14-yo daughter hates my LS, but likes the 'Trix. She is the one next in line to start driving by 2008. So we figured why not wait till when she gets her license (in 18 months), we'll then get rid of the LS, and flip a coin for its replacement - heads she gets the 'Trix and I get a new car, OR Tails she gets a new car and I keep the 'Trix. My wife and my daughter are all for this "deal", so with reluctance I had to kill the LS460 deal I had on the table.
Still interested in giving BMW a try for my money... who knows what'll happen in 18 months !!!
but... but... but... I am supposed to be lurking.... so back to my rocking chair.
#21079 of 24723 Re: Small is Beautiful [dewey]
by cdnpinhead
Nov 16, 2006 (5:10 pm)
So, how bad is the C-230, really?
I have a number of misgivings about ever buying a Mercedes, but if I demand a manual transmission, that's my (one) choice for that marque, excuse me, car.
BMW is at the top of my short list, but I have this one Merc on there as well.
Nov 16, 2006 (6:26 pm)
Apparently had a comparo of the LS460 vs S550/500. Can't find the article but the cover is here. Those who track the german boards....does anyone know what it said?
#21082 of 24723 Re: Small is Beautiful [dewey]
by hpowders
Nov 16, 2006 (6:32 pm)
I have always been a compact car guy even though I'm 6'2".
The 545 is a great vehicle but I can run rings around it with a 325i. (Not talking about acceleration).
Compact cars are simply more agile than mid-sized vehicles.
Can't dispute those laws of physics.
I can see myself comfortably down-sizing next time around.
No more 5 Series unless BMW comes out with a diesel in 2008 which achieves raves.
#21083 of 24723 Re: Small is Beautiful [dewey]
by hpowders
Nov 16, 2006 (6:34 pm)
Agree on the Panamera. Porsche is making a mistake, IMO.
Man is that ugly! Shocking!
#21084 of 24723 Re: One Happy Family you all are with the HELM [oac]
by hpowders
Nov 16, 2006 (6:54 pm)
Hey Oac:
The 550i should be one sweet ride. Try it with the comfort seats if you can. Comfortable without being too soft.
You can't beat the BMW warranty- all factory recommended maintenance for 4 years, 50,000 miles. If you ever do need help with the BMW, you just press a button and you are blue-toothed to BMW. I have never needed to use it.
However, if you decide on the LS460, enjoy it.
#21086 of 24723 Re: One Happy Family you all are with the HELM [hpowders]
by blckislandguy
Nov 16, 2006 (8:02 pm)
Yeh, but what if you wanted to play it $mart and buy one a couple of years old? Only a hedge fund guy could afford the out-of-warranty maintenance expenses on say a 2003 7 Series.
On a not unrelated topic, I see a lot of people (although less now) driving American SUVs who clearly could afford a HELC, I wonder if, in addition to all the other reasons advanced for their popularity, some of the success of SUVs is the perceived rugged simplicity, won't complicate your life with electronic gizmos?
#21087 of 24723 Re: One Happy Family you all are with the HELM [blckislandguy]
by hpowders
Nov 16, 2006 (9:22 pm)
I think a lot of folks think SUV's can be pushed to extremes of daring that HELC's cannot.
Talk about being misinformed.
Yet I see it every day. The people driving most recklessly are the SUVers. Driving them like BMW 3 Series. Guess they didn't take physics 101.