High End Luxury Cars

24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#21051 of 24697 Re: Ala Merc plant dissappointing, but not state's fault[merc1] [thegraduate] by merc1 Nov 15, 2006 (9:16 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 2:04 pm) If they are working towards each other (Lexus getting more sporty, BMW getting more reliable - neither of which I know of as true), then surely the car market can satisfy most people! Well they are definitely trying to cross each other on those goals, somewhat. Lexus will only go so far with their quest to take on BMW. Infiniti has them beat by a country mile in that respect, but they'll still try to capture some of the BMW market. The IS350's suspension calibration and the lack of a manual tell you how far they're going to go. On the flip side most car companies are trying to match Toyota in reliability. BMW has the money and smarts to do it if they're serious about it. M Replies to this message: maxhonda99 (Nov 16, 2006 3:42 pm) brightness04 (Nov 16, 2006 10:22 pm) 2001gs430 (Nov 17, 2006 6:43 am) designman (Nov 17, 2006 7:11 am) and 33 more... brightness04 (Nov 17, 2006 7:28 am) tagman (Nov 17, 2006 7:14 am) houdini1 (Nov 17, 2006 1:16 pm) brightness04 (Nov 17, 2006 3:30 pm)
#21052 of 24697 Re: To be fair [blkhemi] by merc1 Nov 15, 2006 (9:20 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Nov 15, 2006 4:04 pm) But the quality woes that plagued MB at the turn of the century seem to have faded away, particularly on all of the new product. Uhh...not quite IMO. On the S-Class I'll stick my neck out and say yes. Also the more serious things that went wrong with the E-Class (Nav, SBC brakes) have been resolved so we'll have to see how the 07' E and S models do. This will be crucial in determining whether or not MB has truly turned the corner. The ML and R being from a different plant and thrown together in a different situation than German Benzes don't inspire any belief in MB having fixed their problems with that plant and those models. M
#21053 of 24697 Re: Quality is Job One Again for MB [tagman] by merc1 Nov 15, 2006 (9:23 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Nov 14, 2006 7:41 pm) Not sure how I missed this post. Sorry to hear about your injury. Question though, a 911 has a soft enough ride for you? The SL and XK are much more comfortable as far as ride quality is concerned. A 911 is still a sports car, you're cheating...lol!! M Replies to this message: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 9:32 pm) merc1 (Nov 15, 2006 9:56 pm) houdini1 (Nov 16, 2006 6:57 am)
#21054 of 24697 Re: Future Mercedes [tagman] by merc1 Nov 15, 2006 (9:25 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 7:15 pm) The next E won't look like that. Edit: that isn't too bad but I'd have to see the front end. There will be no S-Class convertible. Maybe a CL convertible or a Maybach 4-door convertible, but a S550 droptop..never! As I recall, he'll be eating the brochure shortly after its release. merc - will that be with Ketchup, Mustard, or Bar-B-Que sauce? LOL....maybe I'll make a pizza out of it with the Ketchup. M Replies to this message: brightness04 (Nov 16, 2006 2:04 am) dewey (Nov 16, 2006 3:16 pm)
#21055 of 24697 Re: Quality is Job One Again for MB [merc1] by tagman Nov 15, 2006 (9:32 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Nov 15, 2006 9:23 pm) 911 has a soft enough ride for you? Compared to the Lotus, a skateboard is a soft ride. Seriously, as I recall it should be OK. But, I'll absolutely test carefully before final dollars exchange hands. The GT3, however, would be totally out of the question. The SL and XK are much more comfortable as far as ride quality is concerned. A 911 is still a sports car, you're cheating...lol!! OH yeah! I'm grabbing every last fiber I can at this point. But, you are so right about the beautiful SL and XK. I love them both, but I don't want two vehicles of the same brand in the garage, so the XK is out for now. If the 911 is too harsh, the SL is indeed the backup, as you said. TagMan Replies to this message: merc1 (Nov 15, 2006 9:56 pm) houdini1 (Nov 16, 2006 6:57 am)
#21056 of 24697 Re: Quality is Job One Again for MB [tagman] by merc1 Nov 15, 2006 (9:56 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 9:32 pm) More Mercedes-Benzism just for you: AMG Scroll down to episode 21 and then Mercedes-AMG. Well you know my vote is for the SL. M
#21057 of 24697 One Happy Family you all are with the HELM by oac Nov 15, 2006 (10:25 pm)
Congrats to all of you who helped get this board opened back up. Glad you are all enjoying yourself... It looks like one happy family here, which is a good thing. Just don't screw it up again... I'll be here lurking. Don't make me join the fray now, OK ? We surely don't want this board shut down again now, do we ? Replies to this message: designman (Nov 16, 2006 7:25 am) oac (Nov 16, 2006 3:55 pm) hpowders (Nov 16, 2006 5:54 pm) and 6 more... hpowders (Nov 17, 2006 4:24 am) hpowders (Nov 16, 2006 2:06 pm)
#21058 of 24697 Re: Quality is Job One Again for MB [dewey] by brightness04 Nov 16, 2006 (2:00 am)
Replying to: dewey (Nov 15, 2006 12:54 pm) But the extra costs and risks involved do not even come cloes to the pleasures I will gain with such tires. Then why is BMW switching over to designs that involve run-flats? BTW, taking subway is probably more dangerous than driving one's own car, when disease and mugging are taken into account 32 visits to the repair shop in a year and half is not the kind of risk everyone can afford to take with their primary cars.
#21059 of 24697 Re: Future Mercedes [merc1] by brightness04 Nov 16, 2006 (2:04 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Nov 15, 2006 9:25 pm) I too was very confused by that S-class convertible picture, but if the picture is real . . . it will be interesting to see a four-door convertible that does not have a basket handle. What exactly are the rear doors hinged onto? and how do they keep the posts from flexing?
#21060 of 24697 Re: Insulting, very insulting! [dewey] by syswei Nov 16, 2006 (4:59 am)
Replying to: dewey (Nov 15, 2006 7:21 pm) Cruising the streets of Southern California, officials at Kelley Blue Book, an auto-buying service, say they've seen Mercedes eight-cylinder coupes rebadged as 12-cylinder versions, a sedan with emblems that would make it a coupe, and fake high-performance AMG or Brabus models. This recalls a fellow I met 15+ years ago. He kept referring to "my M3". When I saw the back of his car, the badge was "318is".