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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Tagman [tagman] by blkhemi
Nov 15, 2006 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 4:23 pm)

"Who gets THAT car?"
 
Hopefully it stayed in Germany with all of the other test mules, like the Cayman S that circled "the Ring" for 6 months without a break, or breaking for that matter.
 
And that is how Porsche will remain the primal threat to all in it's class for some time to come. May also be the reason that the cars are so reliable, tops in German brands hands down. However, when the time does arouse for maintenance, it will bury you alive if the preventive hasn't been completed, like the mandatory 15k mile interval that "deep cleans" the engine and fuel systems.
 
One thing that I've come to learn about the 911's are that the tires don't last no more than 20k miles, no matter the brand or how you drive the car to get to that 20k miles.
 
But to be fair, I've replaced my Z06's tires all around 25k miles, so it's to be expected, but oddly, the rears on the 911's go before the fronts do, no doubt related to the rear mounted engine.
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On the subject of Porsche by designman
Nov 15, 2006 (6:07 pm)
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Porsche AG said it has increased its stake in Volkswagen AG to 27.4 pct from 21.2 pct as it unveils a full year to end-July 2006 pretax profit of 2.110 bln eur, up from 1.238 bln, a boost fuelled by strong vehicle sales as well as one-off gains.
 
The spokesman said if the shareholding were to reach 30 pct, German laws require a company to make a mandatory offer to acquire the rest of the other firm, something which he said Porsche does not want to do right now in the case of Volkswagen.
 
The company's statement said the supervisory board has authorized the management board to increase the shares in Volkswagen up to a maximum of 29.9 pct.
 
Porsche's net income as a proportion of sales is the highest in the industry at 19 percent. That compares with 7.5 percent at Toyota Motor Corp., the world's second-biggest carmaker, for the year ended March 31, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

 
Forbes
 
Bloomberg
 
The markets reacted negatively to the additional VW investment. Heh, heh... we take the "risk" of buying German cars and they up the risk ante on VW. I like their style.
 
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Re: Tagman [pat] by tagman
Nov 15, 2006 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Nov 15, 2006 5:26 pm)

Didn't you say that getting in and out of the Lotus was pretty much a challenge? That didn't cause your injury, did it? I'm very sorry to hear about that.
 
Thanks, Pat.
 
No, I can't blame the Lotus. I took the hardtop off right after I got it, and that made getting in and out much easier.
 
I'll be very brief, as this forum isn't about my injury. The quick story is that the injury felt like knives in my neck so I drove myself to the hospital. The rest is history. Since the MRI's and X-rays, I've gotten four shots in the neck , and plenty of meds. I can now move around with physical therapy for a while.
 
So the Lotus is about to be gone. My focus is to get as much of my "life as I once knew it" back, but with new rules of the game and new limitations. I'm a trooper, though.
 
Here's an interesting tidbit. Remember when you emailed me that I had kind of "lost it" on the forum? The truth is I WAS pretty much out of it cause of those darned meds. I've since learned to be more careful.
 
Thanks, Pat. Now enough about me. I'm hoping you'll let me talk about the Porsche next week if everything goes through as I hope it does.
 
TagMan
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Re: Tagman [tagman] by designman
Nov 15, 2006 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 6:24 pm)

I hope you're not overdoing it by buying a Porsche. My wife has back problems and I have to be very careful about driving, particularly with gear shifts which jolt the neck. The Boxster is totally out of the question for her. Also, the owner of my company has back problems and his wife gave up her Porsche because of it. Be careful.
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Re: Tagman [designman] by tagman
Nov 15, 2006 (6:43 pm)
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Replying to: designman (Nov 15, 2006 6:29 pm)

If the Tip is too jerky, then I'm SOL.
 
But, I anticipate my condition to improve enough for me to be able to do many of the things I used to do, including the Porshce. I just don't want to EVER do anything that could even remotely cause a repeat performance, and that would include driving the Lotus, among other things, like surfing, etc. I'll still coach kid's sports, but I'll have an assistant coach (for the really tough stuff) from now on.
 
While the Lotus didn't CAUSE the situation, it would be stupid for me to consider a car like that, which is well-known for being brutal on the driver. I don't think the Porsche has that kind of reputation, except for the suspension of the GT3, from what I understand.
 
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Re: Reliability and Fun; mutually exclusive?[tagman] [thegraduate] [tagman] [thegraduate] [tagman] by thegraduate
Nov 15, 2006 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 3:35 pm)

I've always had a soft spot for Hondas!
 
Us too; I feel like Hondas are a poor man's Bimmer. That may not be true to some people, but it is close enough for our car budget (generally at or below $25k per vehicle)
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Re: Tagman [tagman] by dewey
Nov 15, 2006 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 6:43 pm)

But, I anticipate my condition to improve enough for me to be able to do many of the things I used to do, including the Porshce. I just don't want to EVER do anything that could even remotely cause a repeat performance,
 
Tagman,
 
I find your Porsche decision very exciting indeed.
I think you yourself know what's best for you.
 
I am tempted to suggest to you that you should wait a few months until your condition improves before buying another car. With changed conditions our tastes for cars also changes. But ofcourse I wont suggest that since it is only you that knows what is best in this particular situation of yours.
 
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Re: Reliability and Fun; mutually exclusive?[tagman] [thegraduate] [tagman] [thegraduate] [tagman] [thegraduate] by dewey
Nov 15, 2006 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 6:56 pm)

I've always had a soft spot for Hondas!
  
Us too; I feel like Hondas are a poor man's Bimmer

 
I love the Honda S2000. Many years ago when it was introduced I liked it more than a BMW Z3. And I am quite sure that I will like the new S2000 more than the current Z4.
 
OK, ok now back to those high end cars.
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Future Mercedes by tagman
Nov 15, 2006 (7:15 pm)
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While the current E-Class doesn't quite make the grade for this forum, the NEXT generation might surprise all of us. Quick peak here:
 
2009 E-Class?
 
In the meantime, there is still the likelihood that merc's S-Class convertible will become a reality.
 
This was previously posted, but here's a reminder:
 
2008 S-Class convertible
 
As I recall, he'll be eating the brochure shortly after its release. merc - will that be with Ketchup, Mustard, or Bar-B-Que sauce?
 
TagMan
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Insulting, very insulting! by dewey
Nov 15, 2006 (7:21 pm)
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Rather than fork over big bucks to get high-performance versions of sexy sports cars, some enthusiasts are trying to get the bling without the extra ka-ching.
They are going to dealers or online auctioneer eBay to buy emblems in hopes their cars can masquerade as versions that would cost thousands more.
 
"It happens all the time," says Myles Kovacs, president of Dub magazine, which follows car-customization trends. "People want to live outside their means."

 
Cruising the streets of Southern California, officials at Kelley Blue Book, an auto-buying service, say they've seen Mercedes eight-cylinder coupes rebadged as 12-cylinder versions, a sedan with emblems that would make it a coupe, and fake high-performance AMG or Brabus models.
 
SOURCE:USAToday
 
The USAToday writer equates an enthusiast with a poseur or with someone with an inferiority complex that wants to flaunt what he does not have. I find such a view insulting for all car enthusiasts.

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