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24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 2:08 pm) Welcome to the board! I don't think dewey's original post, as re-posted below: Your obsession with reliability will deprive you of wonderful driving experiences. was ever meant to suggest that we should completely trash the idea of reliability. As I understood it, and he and I and others have shared this opinion here on this forum . . . is that it is better to be balanced about our views of reliability. It is of questionable value to be obsessed with reliability, as the consequences are obvious . . . dramatically reduced fun experiences and less choices that could otherwise broaden our horizons. On the other hand, as your dad learned and taught you very well I imagine, there can be consequences to completely ignoring the genuine virtues of reliability. The key is balance and moderation, IMO. But ultimately, people are wired differently, and our needs and tolerances can be dramatically different. There is no right or wrong here. But I do believe that there is something to be said for not being too obsessive at either end of the spectrum. I look forward to more of your posts, and I appreciated your perspective on the assembly plants by different manufacturers. It clarifies that the good folks from Alabama (and elsewhere) are well-qualified to build reliable vehicles, if just given well-engineered parts, the right tools, a good working environment, and quality-focused procedures. BTW, what was the first unreliable fun car that your dad purchased? And then the second more reliable fun car? Just curious, of course. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 2:59 pm) The unreliable fun car was a 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible (beautiful car though). He replaced it with a Civic Si. Now, we have three Accords in our house! (Practical to the extreme, right?) One of them is my old H.S. car, a 1996. My new one is a 2006 sedan EX(I wanted a Civic Si myself, but I'm 6'4"!). His daily driver is a 2005 Accord EX sedan now. (we aren't in the wealthy realm, comfortably in the middle class, so we don't really shop in the realm of cars in this thread).
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 3:24 pm) But, you can post here and share your opinions, views, and knowledge about these HELCs anytime you want, even if you don't own any car at all. BTW, I've always had a soft spot for Hondas! At 6'4", access may be limited.  TagMan
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The GL is still in it's early stages. True, it's platformate ML has suffered some minor woes, but this doesn't seem to be inherit of the R-Class, altho there are far to few to tell. IMHO, I think that GL will do just fine. Judging from people that have had them since the spring, they appear very pleased with it. This is not to say it will be without problems, particularly a first year model for any make. But the quality woes that plagued MB at the turn of the century seem to have faded away, particularly on all of the new product. There are people with 10-20k miles on new S-Classes that are reporting 0 probs after 10 months of use. This time in 2000, MB was backlogged with S430's and S500's that had Airmatic and COMAND problems.
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I see you're going al fresca with the Targa? Nice choice. Selling the Lotus? I would love to have a new 911 Turbo Cab but (1) I value my marriage too much to buy another car for this year, and (2) There is no room anyway. I hear Porsche opened and closed a Targa top on a new 997 1 million times without the roof failing. Now that's engineering for ya! The same with the convertibles. The run them through a torture test before leaving the factory. And if it leaks, it doesn't leave, unlike many carmakers.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Nov 15, 2006 4:11 pm) Yes, the Lotus will be history, but I don't regret the short time with it. It will have been a genuine kick. If everything goes as expected, I'll be in the Porsche sometime next week. I hear Porsche opened and closed a Targa top on a new 997 1 million times without the roof failing. Who gets THAT car? TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 4:23 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Nov 15, 2006 4:42 pm) No change of heart at all. My post 20991 explains. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 5:17 pm) Congrats on the Porsche. |
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 5:17 pm)
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