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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: syswei (Nov 15, 2006 4:20 am) Your obsession with reliability will deprieve you of wonderful driving experiences. In my case I will choose a higher level of unreliability for the sake of improved driveability. When buying a car I willl intentionally pay extra for low profile performance tires. With such a choice my tires, wheels and suspension parts will be more suseptible to road hazards and damage. Do I care? Ofcourse I do. But the extra costs and risks involved do not even come cloes to the pleasures I will gain with such tires. If I wanted to pursue risklessness I would take the subway home instead of driving my car. I would forgo eating the foie gras at restaurants in order to avoid artery clogging issues. . I would forgo everything I desire in life. IMO reliability and risklessness is far too over-rated!
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 15, 2006 12:39 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 15, 2006 12:54 pm) Words of wisdom. I agree.
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 15, 2006 12:39 pm) If they are working towards each other (Lexus getting more sporty, BMW getting more reliable - neither of which I know of as true), then surely the car market can satisfy most people! On a different topic: I live in AL, and am dissappointed at the quality (or lack thereof) of vehicles coming from the Mercedes' coming from the Vance plant. On the contrary, the Honda plant in Talledega is on its fifth year of producing reliable products (Pilot, Odyssey). It had its 5th anniversary Monday if I remember correctly. Either way, Alabamians are happy about the vehicle assembly plants coming our way (we also have Hyundai building Sonatas and Santa Fes near Montgomery, supposedly some of the best quality vehicles Hyundai has produced, ever).
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 12:58 pm) Words of wisdom. I agree. My father once left his practical side to get a "fun" car; a convertible that from a car company not known for being reliable. It was a fun car for the 5 months he drove it (he owned it 8 months, but spent the better part of 3 months in the shop). He went back to finding a more reliable "fun" car after that.
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 2:04 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 2:04 pm) 
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Replying to: syswei (Nov 15, 2006 2:14 pm) I don't drive a luxury car, but I enjoy reading this board and may start posting every now and then. Thanks for the welcome! I frequent the Honda boards, so come say hi on my end of the site some time! |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2006 2:08 pm) Welcome to the board! I don't think dewey's original post, as re-posted below: Your obsession with reliability will deprive you of wonderful driving experiences. was ever meant to suggest that we should completely trash the idea of reliability. As I understood it, and he and I and others have shared this opinion here on this forum . . . is that it is better to be balanced about our views of reliability. It is of questionable value to be obsessed with reliability, as the consequences are obvious . . . dramatically reduced fun experiences and less choices that could otherwise broaden our horizons. On the other hand, as your dad learned and taught you very well I imagine, there can be consequences to completely ignoring the genuine virtues of reliability. The key is balance and moderation, IMO. But ultimately, people are wired differently, and our needs and tolerances can be dramatically different. There is no right or wrong here. But I do believe that there is something to be said for not being too obsessive at either end of the spectrum. I look forward to more of your posts, and I appreciated your perspective on the assembly plants by different manufacturers. It clarifies that the good folks from Alabama (and elsewhere) are well-qualified to build reliable vehicles, if just given well-engineered parts, the right tools, a good working environment, and quality-focused procedures. BTW, what was the first unreliable fun car that your dad purchased? And then the second more reliable fun car? Just curious, of course. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Nov 15, 2006 2:59 pm) The unreliable fun car was a 1997 Chrysler Sebring Convertible (beautiful car though). He replaced it with a Civic Si. Now, we have three Accords in our house! (Practical to the extreme, right?) One of them is my old H.S. car, a 1996. My new one is a 2006 sedan EX(I wanted a Civic Si myself, but I'm 6'4"!). His daily driver is a 2005 Accord EX sedan now. (we aren't in the wealthy realm, comfortably in the middle class, so we don't really shop in the realm of cars in this thread).
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