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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24696 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 10:43 AM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Nov 14, 2006 1:30 pm) altho the wood wheel on my S600 is pretty cool. Jaguar Vanden Plas steering wheel is wood, both top and bottom, with leather in the center and both sides, good balance between the two, decent thickness, coordinates with burl interior, and is also internally heated in conjunction with heated seats . . . three temp selections. Well done, IMO . . . but I'd have to say my favorite has always been quality leather. I also like a thick grip . . . skinny is no good, IMO. BTW, Targa is supposed to arrive within next few days.  TagMan |
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 14, 2006 3:00 pm) Lexus has achieved that with many of its models on a consistent basis throughout the years. Is that important? I dont think so! Not important because you think the numbers are wrong? Or because a true enthusiast shouldn't care about reliability?
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Replying to: merc1 (Nov 13, 2006 9:37 pm) Good professional wine tasters will smell the bouquet of a bottle and tell you whether it is a good wine or not. Apparently you are uniquely endowed with a nose that can tell the quality of a car from the residue of its wood, leather and chemicals. I am very impressed  But seriously it is not only American built Benzes that fall short in quality. When I sat in a BMW X3 I was shocked at its low quality interior. Is it mere coincidence that the X3 happens to be built in Austria by a Canadian auto supply company (Magna Steyr) ? I dont think so! It makes me wonder if Chinese built Audis have the same high quality fit and finish as the Audis that are built in Germany? It is possible that a supplier of Chery(Chinese Auto company) supplies some parts for a Chinese-made Audi?
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Replying to: syswei (Nov 14, 2006 3:13 pm) TagMan
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Replying to: dewey (Nov 14, 2006 3:16 pm) Yep..lol! Seriously though a Mercedes has a distinctive aroma as do most European luxury cars. But seriously it is not only American built Benzes that fall short in quality. When I sat in a BMW X3 I was shocked at its low quality interior. Is it mere coincidence that the X3 happens to be built in Austria by a Canadian auto supply company (Magna Steyr) ? I dont think so! Well here is the difference between BMW and Mercedes, BMW is more aggressive. Didn't the 07 X3 get a mild interior revamp to address this issue? Mercedes likely won't do much to correct this right away with the ML/R, they'll wait until the facelift and that will be a couple more years. Judging by what they've done at facelift time regarding the E and SL there is hope for the ML/R interiors. M |
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Replying to: syswei (Nov 14, 2006 3:13 pm) Wrong and wrong again. The numbers may be correct and I do care about reliability. But the differences between average reliability and excellent reliability in cars is far too subtle for me to care about. This is not the 1970s of exploding Pintos. IMO the most important diffence between cars is how they drive. And usually that difference is more than subtle.
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