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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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BTW, the G35 is at 47,700 for the year. The CTS is just behind it. BMW 3-series, with it's gang of configurations and engines, usually sells 100k a year, as a group. Lexus should offer both AWD and a manual on the IS350 for 2008. There is no excuse for not doing so. Infiniti and BMW are getting it done. Lexus needs to get that done. I don't wanna hear about clinics and focus groups and what someone told you in 2003. This car is designed to bring in new customers. Offer what those customers are buying elsewhere.  DrFill
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The SRX and Infiniti FX are in a dead heat, which surprises me, since the SRX is more versatile and larger, plus is sold at more dealerships. The G35 hasn't even sold 30k sedans this year. The G35 couple, in it's prime, would sell 70k a year. Maybe get back there next year, or 2008. And the GS is at 23k, the M35/45 at 21500. More scores at the top of the hour..... DrFill
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Replying to: unknown (Nov 03, 2006 5:40 am) I agree. You can't get both at the same time from Infiniti like you can from BMW, but at least you have the choice at all. Heck, even the TL-S, a lowly front driver, has a 6MT option. |
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Replying to: drfill (Nov 02, 2006 7:56 pm) |
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Replying to: drfill (Nov 03, 2006 5:51 am) The SRX's problem is the Escalade. Without that, the SRX would be doing a lot better. Although without the Escalade, its questionable as to whether Cadillac would even still be around. |
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I've always hated how BMW has red guage lighting to "keep you alert". I'm with you on BMW though, the red\red is not something I would want to look at for hours. DrFill and Lexusguy... The red which is really orange lighting is actually easier on the eyes, less glare. I think if you tried driving for extended periods at night, you would change your opinion. Plus, I find the illuminated BMW dashboards to be ethereal.
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Replying to: designman (Nov 03, 2006 6:24 am) While I've never driven a BMW at night for any length of time, I don't have any problem with the LS430's gauges. Night time glare is a big issue for me, (I wear glasses). I wouldn't buy a car if I didn't like the gauges at night. I keep the LS's gauges one notch above completely off, and they're fine. (Although its worth mentioning that my '01 has red needles on white gauges. I'm not crazy about the white\white in the newer 430s.) I also drive with the NAV screen off unless I need directions.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 03, 2006 6:39 am)
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Replying to: designman (Nov 03, 2006 6:44 am) I know exactly what you mean here. But it's not so much the fault of Xenon as it is the linear projection pattern of some of the headlamp assemblies. They are not all the same, and some are much worse than others. Some projections are too darned linear, and when this happens it appears as though there is a solid line that divides where there is light and where there is not . . . the projection area is extremely bright, and the rest is as dark as a black hole. There is simply not enough diffused light to accompany the main projection beam. I don't care much for overly-linear headlights either. TagMan
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Replying to: lexusguy (Nov 02, 2006 7:33 pm) LG, for those reasons and a few more, that's why a white '06 EX-V6 is my daily drive to the city. Very few cars(especially at this price point) offers what it has. Sure the styling could be better, but for 27k, you get the following. :0-60 in 6.00 seconds, with MT 6.5 with AT, and this with a powerplant the is 20-30 horses down on the newest powerplants. And it also drinks regular gas in the process. :A ride/handling compromise that's the envy of all in it's class, with the Mazda 6 and possibly the Sonata V6 being the exceptions. : And quality that has yet to be duplicated, not even the Camry's reliablity scores can bring it down, altho they're both at the top of the heap in this regard. I don't mention it much on this board as it's not appropiate, but everytime it sparks talk, I'm in on it. BTW: The tires on the '06 are the same found on the TL(Bridgestone Potenza REA 050- very sticky all-seasons.) |
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