High End Luxury Cars

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#20503 of 24700 Taste by dhamilton Oct 27, 2006 (6:00 pm)
I'll be at the Taste of Lexus first thing in the morning. I'll post my experience sometime tomorrow night...
#20504 of 24700 I'll be Sunday Mornin'! by Oct 27, 2006 (6:36 pm)
Let me no wut 2 expect, please! Tanx! They bess have at least 4 LS460/L thur to drive. Why wait? I doubt there will be more than 1 S550/750i. DrFill
#20506 of 24700 I hope... by hpowders Oct 27, 2006 (7:08 pm)
he has a good stiff cyclone behind him when driving the LS. Then he just may experience the 0-60mph time that Lexus claims, but two professional reviewers couldn't replicate. Replies to this message: dhamilton (Oct 27, 2006 8:01 pm) hpowders (Oct 28, 2006 5:45 am) lexusguy (Oct 28, 2006 8:09 am) lexusguy (Oct 27, 2006 8:21 pm) tagman (Oct 27, 2006 8:45 pm) drfill (Oct 27, 2006 8:59 pm) and 1 more... hpowders (Oct 28, 2006 5:35 am)
#20507 of 24700 Re: I hope... [hpowders] by dhamilton Oct 27, 2006 (8:01 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 27, 2006 7:08 pm) It will be interesting to see the difference in philosophy between Lexus and everyone else's driving event I've attended. So far, BMW puts the most emphasis on driving [no surprise there] and Audi has been far and away the most classy, with Volvo, GM, and Ford just ho hum. I don't really expect to be blown away by how it drives. I do expect to come away with more respect for Lexus on how they do Luxury. If I was shopping Maybachs, I may just save the dough and grab the L with the executive seating package. I don't really have that kind of paperwork in case anyone was wondering Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 28, 2006 5:45 am) lexusguy (Oct 28, 2006 8:09 am)
#20508 of 24700 Re: I hope... [hpowders] by lexusguy Oct 27, 2006 (8:21 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 27, 2006 7:08 pm) Then he just may experience the 0-60mph time that Lexus claims, but two professional reviewers couldn't replicate. C&D's test car was clearly a pre-production sample, the brakes barely worked. Has Edmunds ever matched a manufacturer's rated 0-60, with any car? Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 27, 2006 8:45 pm) drfill (Oct 27, 2006 8:59 pm) blkhemi (Oct 28, 2006 5:11 am) hpowders (Oct 28, 2006 5:35 am)
#20509 of 24700 Re: I hope... [lexusguy] by tagman Oct 27, 2006 (8:45 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 27, 2006 8:21 pm) C&D's test car was clearly a pre-production sample, the brakes barely worked. Has Edmunds ever matched a manufacturer's rated 0-60, with any car? So, when can we officially KNOW that the LS460 can or can't do what Lexus claims? TagMan Replies to this message: drfill (Oct 27, 2006 8:59 pm) blkhemi (Oct 28, 2006 5:11 am) hpowders (Oct 28, 2006 5:35 am)
#20510 of 24700 Re: I hope... [tagman] by drfill Oct 27, 2006 (8:59 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 27, 2006 8:45 pm) When a full comparison is launched, of course! The Mags haven't done one yet 'cus they are waiting for production models, not pre-production models, to test. Considering the number of options most tested LS' will have, a 5.4 time is unlikely, since Manufacturer's times are from cars at curb weight, no options. Remember, C&D tested the IS350 at 5.1, faster than Lexus claims! GS450h at 5.5 (5.2) GX470 at 7.7 (8.0) ES350 at 6.2! (6.8) (over 3600 lbs!) In LS we trust! BTW, did anyone else hear that the Next Toyota Tundra will have 380+ HP? This bodes well for future Lexus trucks. http://www.autoblog.com/2006/10/26/5-7-liter-v8-in-toyota-tundra-will-produce-38- 1-horsepower/ DrFill Replies to this message: blkhemi (Oct 28, 2006 5:11 am)
#20511 of 24700 Re: I hope... [drfill] by blkhemi Oct 28, 2006 (5:11 am)
Replying to: drfill (Oct 27, 2006 8:59 pm) Yes Doc, it is true. Toyota has finally entered the horsepower war, and the Tundra is said to develop a stout 370-380hp out of it's new from scratch 5.7L i-Force V-8. Earlier in the year, Toyota's Vice-President of NA Trucks said this was a move to instill no doubt that this engine will bring down even the mighty 5.7L HEMI. Ironically, they have the same displacement. But Dodge has something up there sleeve with the 6.1L 420hp HEMI that is going into the '07 Rams as top dog. This engine also will in effect move the 4.7 to the middle of the engine availability. It also will replace the 4.7's in the LC/LX's eventually, along with a 6-speed tranny.
#20512 of 24700 Re: MB marketting quirks [tagman] by blkhemi Oct 28, 2006 (5:20 am)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 27, 2006 12:04 pm) Yes, I read something in Autocar a couple of months ago that Porsche was playing with the idea of making the 911 EVEN MORE hardcore. For one, they're working with Audi now as I type this with their new A4 and MLP platforms that will in effect give it a front-midship design for better performance and weight distribution. Now from what I can take from this, the only thing I can see is they're finally going to take the 911 front-engined after many years of debate to do so. That would give a bit better weight distribution and add some much needed weight over the front tires to alleviate that lifelessness feeling at high speeds due to hardly any weight over the front tires. Kinda reminds me of Merc's fav MB, the 500E, which Porsche made into an iconic status. That car to this day is still unbelieveable, right along with it's still-ridiculous price tag. The first E55 wasn't the car the 500E was, but these latest monsters will smoke it. Tho they still don't have the charisma or soul the 500E did. Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 28, 2006 12:04 pm) lexusguy (Oct 28, 2006 12:12 pm) blkhemi (Oct 28, 2006 1:13 pm)