High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#20054 of 24700 Re: BlkHemi [drfill] by blkhemi Oct 18, 2006 (2:53 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Oct 18, 2006 4:10 am) You may want to find a more credible source with the correct info. See Doc, you can't believe everything that you see, hear, or prescribe, maybe not even YOUR on postings. The A4 has sold 36k units at the time of this writing, compared to a paltry 32k units for the beleagured IS. And the G35 is outselling it too! Now basing your logic on 5 YEAR OLD can't comparos can't get your foot out of your mouth on this one Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 3:38 pm) lexusguy (Oct 18, 2006 7:39 pm)
#20055 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [houdini1] by blkhemi Oct 18, 2006 (2:59 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm) "The LS is for the U.S. only. It's called exclusivity!!" Up until now, I've stood back and let you ponder around about the greatness of this brand. But now the gloves come off. After all that, you can't tell me what the "most exclusive" car in the USA possesses over it's "valueless" peers? Furthermore, how is being the most selling car in it's class being exclusive? Just because it's not in other countries, doesn't mean it's more valuable than the Taj Mahal! Oh, and newsflash, the car is sold in other countries, Japan for one, but it flunks miserably there. I guess it's not exclusive enough..... Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 3:43 pm) designman (Oct 18, 2006 4:49 pm) tagman (Oct 18, 2006 5:19 pm) houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 6:48 pm)
#20056 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [hpowders] by brightness04 Oct 18, 2006 (3:28 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 18, 2006 11:41 am) IMHO, it's not Lexus artificially keeping residuals low, but the Europeans artificially inflating the residuals. I don't know of anyone who keeps their BMW's or MB's at the end of a lease (aside from those being forced into it due to mileage penalty otherwise). Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 3:47 pm) tagman (Oct 18, 2006 4:30 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 6:32 pm) and 47 more...
#20057 of 24700 Re: BlkHemi [blkhemi] by houdini1 Oct 18, 2006 (3:38 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:53 pm) The good doctor gave his source and I notice that you neglected to do so. Please post your source if you want to be credible.
#20058 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by houdini1 Oct 18, 2006 (3:43 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:59 pm) You took your gloves off just to throw cream pies? Puleeaasssee. That rhetoric jibber-jabber doesn't even deserve a come back.
#20059 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [brightness04] by houdini1 Oct 18, 2006 (3:47 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 3:28 pm) I couldn't agree more. It's the same thing with the pricing. The LS pricing is right on but people buying the "prestige" of some of the European makes are simply paying too much. Talk about paying for the "sizzle". Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 18, 2006 4:30 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 6:32 pm) dewey (Oct 18, 2006 7:17 pm) and 42 more... tagman (Oct 18, 2006 7:58 pm) and 3 more...
#20060 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [houdini1] by tagman Oct 18, 2006 (4:30 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 3:47 pm) The LS pricing is right on but people buying the "prestige" of some of the European makes are simply paying too much. Talk about paying for the "sizzle". Paying for Sizzle? Don't forget, houdini1, that Mercedes Filet Mignon is supposed to cost more than Lexus Tri-Tip. BTW, now that the pricing is out, go ahead and price out a loaded LS460L against an S-Class and see just how much difference there is. TagMan Replies to this message: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 6:32 pm) dewey (Oct 18, 2006 7:17 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 7:52 pm) and 41 more... tagman (Oct 18, 2006 7:58 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:03 pm) and 2 more...
#20061 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by designman Oct 18, 2006 (4:49 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:59 pm) Furthermore, how is being the most selling car in it's class being exclusive? Just because it's not in other countries, doesn't mean it's more valuable than the Taj Mahal! Oh, and newsflash, the car is sold in other countries, Japan for one, but it flunks miserably there. I guess it's not exclusive enough..... Ooh that was good. I could not have said it better myself!
#20062 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by tagman Oct 18, 2006 (5:19 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:59 pm) blkhemi - I think houdini1 already knows that his "exclusive" remark was not one of his best posts. He said it as bait. I answered him in post 20021 and in his next post 20022 he sort of threw in the towel on the remark. If you need to do so, check out those posts. So, in my opinion, we can let him off the hook regarding his "exclusive" remark . . . he knows it wasn't one of his better posts and I expect he'll be making quality posts here again soon. TagMan Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 6:48 pm)
#20063 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [tagman] by brightness04 Oct 18, 2006 (6:32 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 18, 2006 4:30 pm) Having a higher price tag does not necessarily mean costing more or worth more. If a car has an MSRP of $100k, is usually leased with a 3-yr residual of $60k, but can never fetch more than $40k at auction after the lessee returns the car after 3-yrs . . . how much is the car really worth to begin with? It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. I mean, how much is a $50 Filet Mignon really worth if it comes with a $20 gift certificate or a second meal of equal or less value with every serving? Replies to this message: dewey (Oct 18, 2006 7:17 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 7:52 pm) dewey (Oct 19, 2006 5:45 am) and 39 more... tagman (Oct 18, 2006 7:58 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:03 pm) tagman (Oct 18, 2006 8:32 pm) and 1 more...