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24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am) Statistically surveys do not show BMWs as being below average in terms of reliability. Please refer to Kirstie's recent post. You can alway google and find horror stories about any marque. No marque is perfect in terms of reliability and that is why Lexus is still relentlessly pursuing it. |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:25 am)  That's the problem with anecdotal positive experience. Bad experience has to be the exception/minority in this day and age for any brand . . . the question is how "exceptional" is it for a particular brand . . . i.e. how many sigma's is the buyer/leaser willing to tolerate. 335i has been on the market for only a few weeks, whereas IS350 has been on the market for a model year. I'm already seeing 328 coupe being offered at very heavily subsidized lease deals.
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 17, 2006 10:08 pm) Definitely I cant think of a more worthy car than the new MB S600 in being crowned the benchmark HELM sedan.
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:41 am)  There are some pretty good discount deals on Lexuses. But that does not make Lexus the inventor of good discount deals. REALITY: Most luxury models especially when they're dated have good lease or discount deals. (BMW or non-BMWs)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:41 am) My anecdotal evidience is backed up by Consumers Report. BMWs overall are not horrible lemons as you are trying to imply. Dont mix up your past BMWs with the general population of BMWs. |
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No offense to you Audi fans but this has to be one of the most knuckleheaded ads I've ever seen: http://www.knucklehead.uk.com/html/player.php?id=100 |
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am) BMW's quality has noticeably improved over the last several years. The only BMW car that CR doesn't have at average reliability or better at this time is the BMW 7 Series. I drive a lot and I can't remember over the last, say 3 years, seeing any vehicle stuck on the side of any road. The average reliability of all vehicles is extraordinary compared to about 10 years ago. The only ones over there are usually those fire engine red sedans being checked out by ol' smokey and his "money pad." Leasing works for me not only because I avoid potential maintenance headaches, but also because I enjoy driving a new vehicle as often as I can. I love cars, but because I am not Jerry Seinfeld or Reggie Jackson, both of whom have many cars, I can at least change the one I do have every couple of years. Maybe the one year lease will be created just for me. I would pounce on that! |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:48 am) Even some Lexus salespeople direct their customers to leasing companies or banks outside of Lexus that offer better leasing deals than Lexus does.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 18, 2006 12:57 am) 
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