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24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 5:41 pm) I've owned a single BMW323i for 8 years. A great car that had spared me a lot of heartbreak in terms of its low maintenance costs after warranty. Am I the single happy long-term BMW owner in this universe? Nope! I know other BMW owners personally and my experience is confirmed by various reliability surveys. Overall BMWs reliability is not stellar but they are certainly not below average. BTW, with the heavily subsidized lease deals on BMW's nowadays, BMW or MB does not monopolize the industry for good lease deals or discounts. I can assure you there are plenty of individuals that got great lease/discount deals at various Japanese luxury dealerships. When the new BMW 7 series will be introduced you are going to have a heck of a time in terms of getting a good lease deal. At intro the days that a 7 series will sit at dealers lots will be very low in fact probably lower than what is currently observed with the new 335i: The average 335i spends a mere eight days on a dealer's lot before selling, according to the Power Information Network The only rival model that's anywhere close is the Lexus IS 350, which spends an average of 20 days on the lot before selling. The quote above is from a somewhat positive review of the BMW335i which is linked below: BUSINESSWEEK
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Replying to: suvguy2005 (Oct 18, 2006 6:11 am) I've never felt so Californian in my whole life. Although that still does not qualify me to vote for or against Schwartzenegger. |
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:19 pm) BTW, ever had a light bulb outage on those leased BMW? Besides the hassle of small things like the light bulbs, I had a transmission failure and a Motronic computer failure, both leaving me stranded, when I had my BMW's. That was during a phase of my life when my punctuality was not all that important.
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am) Statistically surveys do not show BMWs as being below average in terms of reliability. Please refer to Kirstie's recent post. You can alway google and find horror stories about any marque. No marque is perfect in terms of reliability and that is why Lexus is still relentlessly pursuing it. |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:25 am)  That's the problem with anecdotal positive experience. Bad experience has to be the exception/minority in this day and age for any brand . . . the question is how "exceptional" is it for a particular brand . . . i.e. how many sigma's is the buyer/leaser willing to tolerate. 335i has been on the market for only a few weeks, whereas IS350 has been on the market for a model year. I'm already seeing 328 coupe being offered at very heavily subsidized lease deals.
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 17, 2006 10:08 pm) Definitely I cant think of a more worthy car than the new MB S600 in being crowned the benchmark HELM sedan.
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:41 am)  There are some pretty good discount deals on Lexuses. But that does not make Lexus the inventor of good discount deals. REALITY: Most luxury models especially when they're dated have good lease or discount deals. (BMW or non-BMWs)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:41 am) My anecdotal evidience is backed up by Consumers Report. BMWs overall are not horrible lemons as you are trying to imply. Dont mix up your past BMWs with the general population of BMWs. |
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No offense to you Audi fans but this has to be one of the most knuckleheaded ads I've ever seen: http://www.knucklehead.uk.com/html/player.php?id=100 |
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