High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#20013 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [tagman] by blkhemi Oct 17, 2006 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 17, 2006 4:52 pm) Gee, what's a fella to do?
#20014 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by houdini1 Oct 17, 2006 (5:31 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 17, 2006 5:16 pm) I would think, after that rather strong reminder from Pat, that you would at least attempt to talk about helms. All you can talk about is Audi A4s and A6's. There is probably a forum for those somewhere, just not here. You really want to compare the A8 sales to LS sales in the U.S.? I didn't think so. Game, set, and match. Replies to this message: blkhemi (Oct 17, 2006 5:43 pm) houdini1 (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm) tagman (Oct 17, 2006 6:32 pm) and 6 more... blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:59 pm) and 4 more...
#20015 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [hpowders] by brightness04 Oct 17, 2006 (5:41 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 3:01 pm) I see. Then your earlier statement of "owning for 13 years" without any problem was just wee bit misleading . . . if one is willing to swap cars every 2-3 years, chances are that even Kia's would do just fine, especially if you are willing to tolerate the tarnishing of interior finish. BTW, with the heavily subsidized lease deals on BMW's nowadays, it is becoming increasing tempting to hop on the bandwagon for financial reason alone. Good to know that they are not likely to break down in the first 2-3 years Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:00 pm) brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 6:14 pm) hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:19 pm) and 3 more... dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:25 am) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:41 am) dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:48 am) and 55 more... dewey (Oct 18, 2006 9:05 am)
#20016 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [houdini1] by blkhemi Oct 17, 2006 (5:43 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 17, 2006 5:31 pm) If you'd re-read your own post, you'd note that you said AUDI'S IN GENERAL, not indicating one model. If that's all you got out of my post, then I'm giving you way too much credit. Uncheckmate: Slide an LS next to an A8. Besides the preconceived supposed reliablility and Wal-Mart Roll-back pricing strategy and sales(that's a given, thanks to the warehouse pricing), what category exactly is it superior in? And that can go for any of it's peers. Oh and don't get cute, even you haven't drove the LS460 yet, at least for long. Since you brought it up, again, besides Japan and the NA, where else is the LS sold? Try 6 continents and 47 countries for the A8 just to give you a hint? Replies to this message: houdini1 (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm) tagman (Oct 17, 2006 6:32 pm) houdini1 (Oct 17, 2006 6:48 pm) and 2 more... merc1 (Oct 17, 2006 10:35 pm) and 2 more... blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:59 pm) houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 3:43 pm) designman (Oct 18, 2006 4:49 pm) tagman (Oct 18, 2006 5:19 pm) and 1 more...
#20017 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [brightness04] by hpowders Oct 17, 2006 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 5:41 pm) No. It wasn't misleading at all. I don't know how many times I have posted here that I have leased 3 BMW vehicles. Many, many times. Off the top of my head I believe the latest time was post #19896. Don't ask me how I know. I am a BMW savant. Replies to this message: brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 6:14 pm) hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:19 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am) and 2 more...
#20018 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by houdini1 Oct 17, 2006 (6:09 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 17, 2006 5:43 pm) Yep, that Audi makes some of the finest taxi's in all of Africa. The LS is for the U.S. only. It's called exclusivity!! Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 17, 2006 6:32 pm) houdini1 (Oct 17, 2006 6:48 pm) tagman (Oct 17, 2006 8:48 pm) and 1 more... merc1 (Oct 17, 2006 10:35 pm) lexusguy (Oct 18, 2006 12:57 am) and 1 more... blkhemi (Oct 18, 2006 2:59 pm) houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 3:43 pm) designman (Oct 18, 2006 4:49 pm) tagman (Oct 18, 2006 5:19 pm) houdini1 (Oct 18, 2006 6:48 pm)
#20019 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [hpowders] by brightness04 Oct 17, 2006 (6:14 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:00 pm) When you bragged about not having any problem after 13 years of ownership, I thought you _owned_ another BMW all along the time span of leasing three consecutively. Not having any major problem in the first three years is not something worth bragging about; most modern cars are built like that. I never had any major problem with any new car in the first three years. Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:19 pm) brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am) dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:39 am) hpowders (Oct 18, 2006 10:27 am)
#20020 of 24700 Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [brightness04] by hpowders Oct 17, 2006 (6:19 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 6:14 pm) No bragging. Only facts. 3 years isn't 10 minutes is it? A lot can go wrong in 3 years with a vehicle. 3 BMW's. 3 leases. No trouble. Some of you folks seem to think BMW's have meltdowns as soon as they leave the dealer. I also mentioned that I would never own a BMW for the long-term, meaning out of warranty (5 years). If you go back and read post #19896 and if I recall, post #19898 as well. It's all in there. Replies to this message: brightness04 (Oct 18, 2006 8:31 am) dewey (Oct 18, 2006 8:39 am) hpowders (Oct 18, 2006 10:27 am)
#20021 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [houdini1] by tagman Oct 17, 2006 (6:32 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm) The LS is for the U.S. only. It's called exclusivity!! Limited regional success is now exclusivity? You are really reaching! Gotta give ya credit for that. But be realistic . . . Lexus would LOVE to do better in Europe and elsewhere, and you know it. And you know they will be trying much harder to achieve some headway there. They simply haven't had the right ingredients so far. A lack of a diesel is just a part of Lexus' deficiency, and I've read many a post always blaming the lack of a diesel. That's a no-brainer. It's deeper than that. But, yes you are right that Lexus does very well in the good 'ol USA. But keep in mind that the rest of the world clearly makes a different choice. It makes good sense to consider the entire global picture, IMO. Otherwise we'd be hearing scientists telling us about USA-warming instead of global-warming. Sometimes it is good to see the whole picture . . . it doesn't get bigger than that. TagMan Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 17, 2006 6:48 pm) tagman (Oct 17, 2006 8:48 pm) lexusguy (Oct 17, 2006 9:57 pm) merc1 (Oct 17, 2006 10:35 pm) lexusguy (Oct 18, 2006 12:57 am) hpowders (Oct 18, 2006 10:37 am)
#20022 of 24700 Re: This thing about the Audi image [tagman] by houdini1 Oct 17, 2006 (6:48 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 17, 2006 6:32 pm) Finally, a rational post. How do you think diesels and helms will mix in the U.S.? I have heard some say that they are mutually exclusive. I do not agree, what with the clean diesel and new diesel technology. I can't wait to get my hands on one of some kind. I am hereby resolving to clean my act up and cut back on some of my "spiteful" posts. I sure don't want to see this forum end up as "read only". Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 17, 2006 8:48 pm) lexusguy (Oct 17, 2006 9:57 pm)