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24700 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: This thing about the Audi image [kirstie_h] by tagman
Oct 17, 2006 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Oct 17, 2006 4:22 pm)

Here's the Hot Tip of the Day: No brand is 100% reliable, trouble- and maintenance-free.
  
Please take that with you as you continue talking about HELM vehicles. I don't think that anyone is going to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that one brand is, in all categories, universally, forever and ever amen, better than any other of all time.

 
By golly . . . then I'll take one of each HELM please! (but pass on the Lexus )
 
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Re: This thing about the Audi image [houdini1] by blkhemi
Oct 17, 2006 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 17, 2006 4:02 pm)

As usual, your irratic tactics on any carmaker other than Lexus.
 
I've personally never seen an Audi on a tow truck. Conversely, there was a GX and LS in the same day just yesterday. Maybe it was these poor New York streets
 
Audi's sell poor here? And the line is forming for 2 years for these demented, unreliable, unusable, failures of cars? That's interesting that you say that as the A4 is still outselling the IS, the car that was supposed to be the dominator in this class. Cheap prices can't get you out of this one.
 
Ah, and let's not forget the "world's best selling luxury car", the Audi A6. So let me breakdown this down to lowest smallest form of math:
 
The world market, which includes the biggest of them all, the grand USA, gave the thrown of the world's best car to the A6. So yes, to answer(or correct you), the US does give a hoot about the Audi brand...
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Re: This thing about the Audi image [tagman] by blkhemi
Oct 17, 2006 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 17, 2006 4:52 pm)

Gee, what's a fella to do?
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Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by houdini1
Oct 17, 2006 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 17, 2006 5:16 pm)

I would think, after that rather strong reminder from Pat, that you would at least attempt to talk about helms. All you can talk about is Audi A4s and A6's. There is probably a forum for those somewhere, just not here.
 
You really want to compare the A8 sales to LS sales in the U.S.? I didn't think so. Game, set, and match.
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Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [hpowders] by brightness04
Oct 17, 2006 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 3:01 pm)

I see. Then your earlier statement of "owning for 13 years" without any problem was just wee bit misleading . . . if one is willing to swap cars every 2-3 years, chances are that even Kia's would do just fine, especially if you are willing to tolerate the tarnishing of interior finish.
 
BTW, with the heavily subsidized lease deals on BMW's nowadays, it is becoming increasing tempting to hop on the bandwagon for financial reason alone. Good to know that they are not likely to break down in the first 2-3 years
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Re: This thing about the Audi image [houdini1] by blkhemi
Oct 17, 2006 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 17, 2006 5:31 pm)

If you'd re-read your own post, you'd note that you said AUDI'S IN GENERAL, not indicating one model.
 
If that's all you got out of my post, then I'm giving you way too much credit.
 
Uncheckmate: Slide an LS next to an A8. Besides the preconceived supposed reliablility and Wal-Mart Roll-back pricing strategy and sales(that's a given, thanks to the warehouse pricing), what category exactly is it superior in? And that can go for any of it's peers. Oh and don't get cute, even you haven't drove the LS460 yet, at least for long.
 
Since you brought it up, again, besides Japan and the NA, where else is the LS sold? Try 6 continents and 47 countries for the A8 just to give you a hint?
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Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [brightness04] by hpowders
Oct 17, 2006 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 5:41 pm)

No. It wasn't misleading at all.
I don't know how many times I have posted here that I have leased 3 BMW vehicles. Many, many times. Off the top of my head I believe the latest time was post #19896.
Don't ask me how I know. I am a BMW savant.
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Re: This thing about the Audi image [blkhemi] by houdini1
Oct 17, 2006 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 17, 2006 5:43 pm)

Yep, that Audi makes some of the finest taxi's in all of Africa. The LS is for the U.S. only. It's called exclusivity!!
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Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [hpowders] by brightness04
Oct 17, 2006 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 17, 2006 6:00 pm)

When you bragged about not having any problem after 13 years of ownership, I thought you _owned_ another BMW all along the time span of leasing three consecutively. Not having any major problem in the first three years is not something worth bragging about; most modern cars are built like that. I never had any major problem with any new car in the first three years.
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Re: Lexus Quality Slipping [brightness04] by hpowders
Oct 17, 2006 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Oct 17, 2006 6:14 pm)

No bragging. Only facts. 3 years isn't 10 minutes is it?
A lot can go wrong in 3 years with a vehicle. 3 BMW's. 3 leases. No trouble.
Some of you folks seem to think BMW's have meltdowns as soon as they leave the dealer.
 
I also mentioned that I would never own a BMW for the long-term, meaning out of warranty (5 years).
If you go back and read post #19896 and if I recall, post #19898 as well. It's all in there.

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