High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#19772 of 24700 Re: BMW, not full line??!!! [blkhemi] by houdini1 Oct 11, 2006 (6:11 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 11, 2006 3:10 pm) That is not my opinion, it was stated in the article that Dewey was bragging about and cherry picking facts from. Might help if you would take the time to read it. Being informed makes for more interesting posts.
#19773 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [hpowders] by maxhonda99 Oct 12, 2006 (4:44 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:45 pm) I'll wait for acceleration tests from all the magazines, unlike yourself. A pre-production car's 0-60 mean little, as do one magazine's test numbers! Besides, Motor Trend usually gets the quickest times to begin with. Next up, 5.5 or 6 seconds is soo hard to differentiate from the seat of the pants experience, that the .5 second difference is really insignificant.
#19774 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [lexusguy] by hpowders Oct 12, 2006 (4:45 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Oct 11, 2006 5:34 pm) Looking forward to the LS braking and acceleration findings from Road & Track and Motor Trend. Hopefully, the C & D data were due to testing a pre-production model. Replies to this message: maxhonda99 (Oct 12, 2006 4:51 am) hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 7:05 am)
#19775 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [hpowders] by maxhonda99 Oct 12, 2006 (4:51 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 4:45 am) acceleration numbers are going to vary greatly anyway, Motor Trend might get 5.2, R&T might get 6.2, and C&D might get 5.5 with a actual test vehicle. Numbers are all over the place for every car model on this planet. I don't see braking numbers improving all that much with a production model, except with a sport model with the stickier tires, which should move braking numbers closer to what the old LS430 did and it's competitors. Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 7:05 am)
#19776 of 24700 I want to buy an Audi because I saw one in I Robot by dewey Oct 12, 2006 (6:36 am)
Audi wants to raise its image by raising its prices in the luxury market. Based on the information linked below it appears Audi wants to increase their prices by using marketing that has little substance: To improve its image, Audi is considering showcasing its cars in more product placements like it did in the science fiction movie "I, Robot." Does Audi honestly think that Product placements in movies like iRobot are going to make Audis more desirable? the Spring, it also held "lifestyle" events that offered test drives and featured partners such as exotic travel company Abercrombie & Kent, upscale stereo maker Bang & Olufsen, and motorcycle maker Ducati. Does Audi honestly think that lifestyle events with exotic travel companies, Ducati and Bang and Olufson is going to make their cars more desirable? De Nysschen and other Audi executives were in New York for the opening of an Audi Forum - a 6,400-square foot showroom on Manhattan's well-heeled Park Avenue, which de Nysschen said is one of Audi's efforts to improve its brand image. The showroom, which features an 8-foot by 6-foot high-definition video screen that meanders along the ceiling, can display up to five cars and offers passersby the opportunity to learn more about the brand. Does Audi honestly think that gradoise and ostenatatious showrooms will increase the desirability of owning a Audi? The desirability of Audis are dependent on their product-line It appears their marketing is focused on everything but their product-lines. IMO this new Bling approach of Audi is doomed to fail! SOURCE: AUDI Replies to this message: syswei (Oct 12, 2006 6:56 am) tagman (Oct 12, 2006 8:03 am) dewey (Oct 12, 2006 11:36 am) hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 1:17 pm) and 4 more... blkhemi (Oct 12, 2006 1:57 pm) tagman (Oct 12, 2006 2:57 pm) reality2 (Oct 12, 2006 2:56 pm)
#19777 of 24700 Re: I want to buy an Audi because I saw one in I Robot [dewey] by syswei Oct 12, 2006 (6:56 am)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 12, 2006 6:36 am) And I want to buy a Lexus because I saw one in Minority Report. Just kidding. But Minority Report was a better movie, imo.
#19778 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [maxhonda99] by hpowders Oct 12, 2006 (7:05 am)
Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 12, 2006 4:51 am) Of course the best thing to do is ignore all the reviews and drive the car yourself. This is especially true with the LS, given that the auto mags have such a performance bias. That is why I will be at the Lexus Taste next month, fully aware that the new LS is geared more toward comfort than performance.
#19779 of 24700 Re: Who is Number One? [hpowders] by designman Oct 12, 2006 (7:16 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:40 pm) Just don't ask either of us to change the radio from AM to FM. What do you think we are, Nobel Prize winners? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the shortest route requires four clicks which includes two types of clicks. Very annoying. Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 7:57 am)
#19780 of 24700 Re: Who is Number One? [designman] by hpowders Oct 12, 2006 (7:57 am)
Replying to: designman (Oct 12, 2006 7:16 am) It requires 3 manipulations of iDrive just to get to AM (2 clicks and a twist) assuming one has the radio already set to FM. If you don't travel much, you can input your presets at home and forget about it, except that changing from FM to AM is a chore. I leave my radio on FM all the time and use the steering wheel switches for volume and station changing since my presets are in iDrive. If you travel outside your area a lot and want to listen to the radio and hunt for stations, this had better be done when you stop for gas. You can get killed trying to find a radio station with the iDrive when driving. I drove about 500 miles several weeks ago and whatever station came up, that's what I listened to. Thanks to iDrive, I now have a passion for salsa music!
#19781 of 24700 Re: I want to buy an Audi because I saw one in I Robot [dewey] by tagman Oct 12, 2006 (8:03 am)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 12, 2006 6:36 am) Does Audi honestly think that Product placements in movies like iRobot are going to make Audis more desirable? Oh yes, it works! James Bond movies alone were responsible for tremendous recognition of vehicles, even BMW roadsters, among MANY others. TagMan Replies to this message: dewey (Oct 12, 2006 11:36 am) hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 1:17 pm) tagman (Oct 12, 2006 3:19 pm) and 3 more... blkhemi (Oct 12, 2006 1:57 pm) tagman (Oct 12, 2006 2:57 pm)