High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#19758 of 24700 BMW, not full line??!!! by blkhemi Oct 11, 2006 (3:10 pm)
That's interesting. Let's see. There is: The X3/X5-(the must have SUV) The 3-Series(the envy of all cars in it's class that comes in 3 configurations, not just 1, like the IS currently does) The 5-Series(the midsize car that keeps all car companies up at night The 7-Series(the large car that has a lot of negative misconceptions, and some rightfully so, but still a very solid car that can outdance them all, even tip-toe with the QP) The 6-Series(much of a frown up front, but with serious meat and potatoes that can shake an SC430 off of it's all-season's) Then there are the cool cars like the Z4, that as vanilla as the 2.5i version, all the way to the super hot Z4/M that actually gives the Porsche Cayman a nervous jitter. And the upcoming Z8 redux and Z9, cars that are hugely anticipated. As is the upcoming GL-fighter full-size X7. So to sum it up, in most respects, BMW is more "full-line" than your fav, Lexus.... Replies to this message: houdini1 (Oct 11, 2006 6:11 pm)
#19759 of 24700 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [blkhemi] by dewey Oct 11, 2006 (3:11 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 11, 2006 2:59 pm) Very true Blkhemi there are very few details about the new Honda diesels for our continent. Also you are correct in stating that Honda's current record for fuel efficiency is not overwhelmingly impressive. Honda has been billed as a company that is focused on fuel efficiency due to its history. They introduced the Honda Civic during 1973 just at the time of the OPEC oil embargo. This perfect timing for Honda has created a long lasting halo affect for Honda's fuel efficient image(more of an image than a fact). Replies to this message: blkhemi (Oct 11, 2006 3:20 pm)
#19760 of 24700 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey] by blkhemi Oct 11, 2006 (3:20 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 3:11 pm) Very true, as the company was so called in the right place at the right time. Isn't it funny how history is repeating itself? It took the domestics a full decade to produce something remotely close to the Honda Motor Company's fuel efficiency back then. Fast forward 20 years, and nothing has changed much as the domestics still have to play catch up to Toyota and Honda in that respect. And maybe I was a little brash at first with Honda, as they're still my favorite Japanese-brand company. Yes the RDX could've sipped less fuel, but when the Civic IMA getting Prius-like numbers, not to mention the CRV being the most fuel efficient in it's class of non-hybrid models(altho it's only 3 below the $8k more Escape hybrid), the company is still capable of building them right.
#19761 of 24700 Re: Who is Number One? [dewey] by hpowders Oct 11, 2006 (4:31 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 2:51 pm) I try, Dewey. I try.
#19762 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [maxhonda99] by hpowders Oct 11, 2006 (4:33 pm)
Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 11, 2006 2:53 pm) Nope! The fat lady sings when that big old V-8 gets it done in 5.5 or faster. Replies to this message: maxhonda99 (Oct 11, 2006 4:35 pm) hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:45 pm) lexusguy (Oct 11, 2006 5:34 pm) and 3 more... maxhonda99 (Oct 12, 2006 4:44 am)
#19763 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [hpowders] by maxhonda99 Oct 11, 2006 (4:35 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:33 pm) 5 Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:45 pm) lexusguy (Oct 11, 2006 5:34 pm) hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 4:45 am) and 2 more... maxhonda99 (Oct 12, 2006 4:44 am)
#19764 of 24700 Re: Who is Number One? [dewey] by hpowders Oct 11, 2006 (4:40 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 2:54 pm) Meanwhile, Dewey and I are laughing all the way through the curves. Just don't ask either of us to change the radio from AM to FM. What do you think we are, Nobel Prize winners? You guys can spin this all you like. You know BMW is the best there is for driving dynamics per cost of their vehicles. Come on folks. Let's get real! Replies to this message: maxhonda99 (Oct 11, 2006 4:42 pm) hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:47 pm) designman (Oct 12, 2006 7:16 am) hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 7:57 am)
#19765 of 24700 Re: Who is Number One? [hpowders] by maxhonda99 Oct 11, 2006 (4:42 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:40 pm) "You guys can spin this all you like". You're funny! I still can't stop laughing about that 6 second thing! Replies to this message: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:47 pm)
#19766 of 24700 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [maxhonda99] by hpowders Oct 11, 2006 (4:45 pm)
Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 11, 2006 4:35 pm) The number in itself is not the problem. The problem is that Lexus claimed 5.5 seconds and C&D found it really should be 6.0. I have never seen a 0-60 mph time off by so much. It sure would have looked better if Lexus claimed a 6.0 and C&D found it to be 5.5! Replies to this message: lexusguy (Oct 11, 2006 5:34 pm) hpowders (Oct 12, 2006 4:45 am) maxhonda99 (Oct 12, 2006 4:51 am) and 1 more... maxhonda99 (Oct 12, 2006 4:44 am)
#19767 of 24700 Re: Who is Number One? [maxhonda99] by hpowders Oct 11, 2006 (4:47 pm)
Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 11, 2006 4:42 pm) As far as the number itself is concerned, this is highly serious business. Driving a 5.5 seconds 0-60 mph vehicle instead of a 6 can mean the difference between being first or fourth when I line up for my government assistance check. Of course, I park the 545 around back.