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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 10, 2006 4:16 am) Ah, so now the reality comes out. The article was merely disappointing to you! 0-60 is unacceptable for a sedan with a big V-8? oh ok....so does that make 5.9 acceptable? Funny!
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 11, 2006 12:06 pm) OK let me get this straight-- I am driving a car whose marque is rated the higest but does not qualify because BMW is not a full line manufacturer? OK I gotcha. But unfortunately that little technicality you have pointed out does not stop me or Howard or most BMW drivers from enjoying our cars the most in the entire auto industry. |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 7:28 pm) Secondly, even with the urea bladder, the actual size of it is said to be smaller than a gallon jug of milk(out goes the space concern) and with the utilization of chemicals that can outlive the life of the car, again, the maintenance issue is non-existant. And on Honda, we don't know what the engine is. And we are still talking about the the reigning and forever king of diesel engine building and technology. Furthermore, the MB is right here right now, not some hopeful concept. What, will the same thing be said when BMW comes out with the first mass-market diesel electric(not including locamotives)? Or Audi when the new gen TDI's get here and be the cleanest diesels on the road by far?(They're doing the samething as Honda, but will feature 8-catalyst and 1 particulate net for virtual PZERO emission ratings) This is not to crash Honda, as we all know they build solid powertrains. But questionable blunders like the turbo "X3 fighter" that gets worse mileage than the bigger and more powerful MDX, and a V6 in the RL that gets worst than V8 mileage(why not have the V8 anyway) is enough to keep much speculation in the air...
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That's interesting. Let's see. There is: The X3/X5-(the must have SUV) The 3-Series(the envy of all cars in it's class that comes in 3 configurations, not just 1, like the IS currently does) The 5-Series(the midsize car that keeps all car companies up at night The 7-Series(the large car that has a lot of negative misconceptions, and some rightfully so, but still a very solid car that can outdance them all, even tip-toe with the QP) The 6-Series(much of a frown up front, but with serious meat and potatoes that can shake an SC430 off of it's all-season's) Then there are the cool cars like the Z4, that as vanilla as the 2.5i version, all the way to the super hot Z4/M that actually gives the Porsche Cayman a nervous jitter. And the upcoming Z8 redux and Z9, cars that are hugely anticipated. As is the upcoming GL-fighter full-size X7. So to sum it up, in most respects, BMW is more "full-line" than your fav, Lexus....
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Replying to: blkhemi (Oct 11, 2006 2:59 pm) Honda has been billed as a company that is focused on fuel efficiency due to its history. They introduced the Honda Civic during 1973 just at the time of the OPEC oil embargo. This perfect timing for Honda has created a long lasting halo affect for Honda's fuel efficient image(more of an image than a fact).
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 3:11 pm) Isn't it funny how history is repeating itself? It took the domestics a full decade to produce something remotely close to the Honda Motor Company's fuel efficiency back then. Fast forward 20 years, and nothing has changed much as the domestics still have to play catch up to Toyota and Honda in that respect. And maybe I was a little brash at first with Honda, as they're still my favorite Japanese-brand company. Yes the RDX could've sipped less fuel, but when the Civic IMA getting Prius-like numbers, not to mention the CRV being the most fuel efficient in it's class of non-hybrid models(altho it's only 3 below the $8k more Escape hybrid), the company is still capable of building them right. |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 2:51 pm) 
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 11, 2006 2:53 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 4:33 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 2:54 pm) Just don't ask either of us to change the radio from AM to FM. What do you think we are, Nobel Prize winners? You guys can spin this all you like. You know BMW is the best there is for driving dynamics per cost of their vehicles. Come on folks. Let's get real! |
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