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You are in the Sedans Forum.

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#19747 of 24723 Who is Number One? by dewey

Oct 11, 2006 (10:17 am)

Based on the latest survey from Strategic Vision Inc. BMW ranks as the number one brand in the industry in terms of customer satisfaction.
 
San Diego-based Strategic Vision surveyed more than 64,000 people who purchased new vehicles from October 2005 to March 2006. Participants were questioned after 90 days of ownership. The study, separate from Strategic Vision's quality survey, tries to capture whether consumers believe they got their money's worth and factors in emotional components.
 
Overall, BMW AG outperformed all companies, including Honda, but because it sells only luxury vehicles and the Mini sports coupe and convertible, it is not considered a full-line automaker.
 
As mentioned above the survey focuses on how satisfied a customer is with his/her car and not on how many problems arose with his/her car.
 
So it appears reliability issues may not affect the satisfaction of car ownership as much as what you would think--- escpecially after reading CR auto surveys. In other words the reliability issues faced by BMW owners are so insignificant that they do not at all affect BMW's highest ranking in terms of ownwer satisfaction .While the stellar non-existent reliability issues faced by Lexus owners does not increase the satisfaction of owning a Lexus as much as you would think it would.
 
Interestingly Toyota's satisfaction survery rankings are declining relative to Hyundai rankings.
 
BOTTOM LINE: There is more to owning a car than just reliability.
 
SOURCE: FORBES

#19748 of 24723 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey] by lexusguy

Oct 11, 2006 (11:37 am)

Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 9:49 pm)
I guess I like car companies with a motorcycle tradition(although that does not explain my dislike for Suzuki cars)
 
Well, Suzuki cars are awful. I don't think anyone likes them, not even owners. Half of them are actually Daewoos anyway. Suzuki would be better off just staying the motorcycle game with Kawasaki and Yamaha. Kawasaki actually has a faster bike than the Turbo Busa, they can't let that stand.

#19749 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [dewey] by houdini1

Oct 11, 2006 (1:06 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 10:17 am)
BMW did not win anything because they are not a full line manufacturer. They had some high scores, thanks primarily to the MINI, which has a legendary cult following.
 
The ACTUAL WINNERS.....Honda first, Toyota second. Nice spin though.

#19750 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [dewey] by tagman

Oct 11, 2006 (1:24 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 10:17 am)
Based on the latest survey from Strategic Vision Inc. BMW ranks as the number one brand in the industry in terms of customer satisfaction.
 
Are you aware of any JD Power survey that is similar to the Strategic Vision survey?
 
TagMan

#19751 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [dewey] by hpowders

Oct 11, 2006 (2:13 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 10:17 am)
"BMW ranks as the number one brand in the industry."
 
Yes. I saw that report but was too modest to announce it.
We BMW drivers are used to this praise and don't need to brag about it.
 
You and I both know that BMW is the greatest auto manufacturer in the world. We don't really need to see it time after time in survey after survey.
 
The only company mentioned in the same breath was the great Honda Motor Company.
 
Yes, as I have been writing here time after time, Toyota is on the way down and Hyundai is on the way up.
 
The big 3 in family sedans will soon be Honda, Hyundai and Toyota in decreasing rank. This is as inevitable as Road and Track finding the LS 460 doesn't brake as well as the LS 430.
 
Let me just finally say, thank you so much Chris Bangle and the entire Bavarian gang for creating such stylish, beautiful, exciting vehicles to drive which enables every exciting Hanes Brief-twisting turn to be such an exciting thrill.
 
BMW, your Strategic Vision victory while well-deserved, is also, entirely unsurprising.

#19752 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [tagman] by dewey

Oct 11, 2006 (3:50 pm)

Replying to: tagman (Oct 11, 2006 1:24 pm)
Are you aware of any JD Power survey that is similar to the Strategic Vision survey?
 
No I dont. I remember reading years ago that the Strategic Vision survey is a far more comprehensive in terms of ownership experiences than various JD Power surveys.

#19753 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [hpowders] by dewey

Oct 11, 2006 (3:51 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 2:13 pm)
Yes. I saw that report but was too modest to announce it.
We BMW drivers are used to this praise and don't need to brag about it.
 
Sometimes your modesty and humbleness can be a bit overwhelming

#19754 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [houdini1] by ivan_99

Oct 11, 2006 (3:52 pm)

Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 11, 2006 1:06 pm)
The ACTUAL WINNERS.....Honda first, Toyota second. Nice spin though
 
That is technically correct.
 
But as far as HELM's go, the winner is BMW.
 
The rules could also state that the manufacturer has to make robots that walk; and BMW would lose that as well, but as far as HELM's go...it shouldn't matter

#19755 of 24723 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [hpowders] by maxhonda99

Oct 11, 2006 (3:53 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Oct 10, 2006 5:16 am)
"Disappointing in the sense that a 0-60 mph time of 6.0 seconds is unacceptable for a sedan with a big V-8."
 
Ah, so now the reality comes out. The article was merely disappointing to you! 0-60 is unacceptable for a sedan with a big V-8? oh ok....so does that make 5.9 acceptable?
  
Funny!

#19756 of 24723 Re: Who is Number One? [houdini1] by dewey

Oct 11, 2006 (3:54 pm)

Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 11, 2006 1:06 pm)
BMW did not win anything because they are not a full line manufacturer.
 
OK let me get this straight-- I am driving a car whose marque is rated the higest but does not qualify because BMW is not a full line manufacturer?
 
OK I gotcha. But unfortunately that little technicality you have pointed out does not stop me or Howard or most BMW drivers from enjoying our cars the most in the entire auto industry.

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