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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 10, 2006 8:43 pm) Above a certain price level I tend to always favor BMWs. I guess I like car companies with a motorcycle tradition(although that does not explain my dislike for Suzuki cars)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 8:44 pm) Yes it would. The question then would be, what is the point of the RL? I think many buyers ask that question already, if they haven't they will for 07 with the TL-S sitting on the same showroom floor. M |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 8:49 pm) The reason for your dislike for Suzuki cars is . . . Suzuki cars.  TagMan |
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Based on the latest survey from Strategic Vision Inc. BMW ranks as the number one brand in the industry in terms of customer satisfaction. San Diego-based Strategic Vision surveyed more than 64,000 people who purchased new vehicles from October 2005 to March 2006. Participants were questioned after 90 days of ownership. The study, separate from Strategic Vision's quality survey, tries to capture whether consumers believe they got their money's worth and factors in emotional components. Overall, BMW AG outperformed all companies, including Honda, but because it sells only luxury vehicles and the Mini sports coupe and convertible, it is not considered a full-line automaker. As mentioned above the survey focuses on how satisfied a customer is with his/her car and not on how many problems arose with his/her car. So it appears reliability issues may not affect the satisfaction of car ownership as much as what you would think--- escpecially after reading CR auto surveys. In other words the reliability issues faced by BMW owners are so insignificant that they do not at all affect BMW's highest ranking in terms of ownwer satisfaction .While the stellar non-existent reliability issues faced by Lexus owners does not increase the satisfaction of owning a Lexus as much as you would think it would. Interestingly Toyota's satisfaction survery rankings are declining relative to Hyundai rankings. BOTTOM LINE: There is more to owning a car than just reliability. SOURCE: FORBES
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 8:49 pm) Well, Suzuki cars are awful. I don't think anyone likes them, not even owners. Half of them are actually Daewoos anyway. Suzuki would be better off just staying the motorcycle game with Kawasaki and Yamaha. Kawasaki actually has a faster bike than the Turbo Busa, they can't let that stand. |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 9:17 am) The ACTUAL WINNERS.....Honda first, Toyota second. Nice spin though.
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 9:17 am) Are you aware of any JD Power survey that is similar to the Strategic Vision survey? TagMan
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 11, 2006 9:17 am) Yes. I saw that report but was too modest to announce it.  We BMW drivers are used to this praise and don't need to brag about it. You and I both know that BMW is the greatest auto manufacturer in the world. We don't really need to see it time after time in survey after survey. The only company mentioned in the same breath was the great Honda Motor Company. Yes, as I have been writing here time after time, Toyota is on the way down and Hyundai is on the way up. The big 3 in family sedans will soon be Honda, Hyundai and Toyota in decreasing rank. This is as inevitable as Road and Track finding the LS 460 doesn't brake as well as the LS 430. Let me just finally say, thank you so much Chris Bangle and the entire Bavarian gang for creating such stylish, beautiful, exciting vehicles to drive which enables every exciting Hanes Brief-twisting turn to be such an exciting thrill. BMW, your Strategic Vision victory while well-deserved, is also, entirely unsurprising.
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 11, 2006 12:24 pm) No I dont. I remember reading years ago that the Strategic Vision survey is a far more comprehensive in terms of ownership experiences than various JD Power surveys. |
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 11, 2006 1:13 pm) We BMW drivers are used to this praise and don't need to brag about it. Sometimes your modesty and humbleness can be a bit overwhelming
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