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24697 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: I purchased the Audi S8 [scottphillip] by merc1
Oct 10, 2006 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: scottphillip (Oct 10, 2006 9:38 am)

Nice!!!
 
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Re: BIG DIESEL NEWS!! [dewey] by merc1
Oct 10, 2006 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 12:24 pm)

Yeah I'm curious to see what Honda has done, but it will likely be a 4-cylinder they're talking about, not a V6??
 
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey] by merc1
Oct 10, 2006 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 8:26 pm)

Well I wasn't calling them wannabes as in they want a BMW, only that they want a sporty car, but aren't ready for a BMW (i.e. a true sporting, or sportier experience).
 
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [merc1] by dewey
Oct 10, 2006 (8:40 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 10, 2006 8:35 pm)

Fair enough!
 
That will be my very last defense for Lexus tonight.
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey] by tagman
Oct 10, 2006 (8:43 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 7:28 pm)

Your latest information regarding the BlueTec's use of the urea additive to be compliant in all 50 states is, therefore, the same as mine. It would seem that there is no corroboration of blkhemi's interpretation of the program with Doctor Z at this point in time.
 
I've gotta give huge kudos to Honda for their innovation here, in providing a 50-state diesel without the need for additives.
 
Mercedes should consider paying Honda to use its catalyst technology. But, of course, that won't happen.
 
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Re: BIG DIESEL NEWS!! [merc1] by dewey
Oct 10, 2006 (8:44 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 10, 2006 8:31 pm)

A diesel Acura TL V6 SH-AWD would be a very interesting car!
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [tagman] by dewey
Oct 10, 2006 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 10, 2006 8:43 pm)

Below a certain price level I tend to always favor Hondas
Above a certain price level I tend to always favor BMWs.
I guess I like car companies with a motorcycle tradition(although that does not explain my dislike for Suzuki cars)
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Re: BIG DIESEL NEWS!! [dewey] by merc1
Oct 10, 2006 (9:12 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 8:44 pm)

A diesel Acura TL V6 SH-AWD would be a very interesting car!
 
Yes it would. The question then would be, what is the point of the RL? I think many buyers ask that question already, if they haven't they will for 07 with the TL-S sitting on the same showroom floor.
 
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey] by tagman
Oct 11, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 10, 2006 8:49 pm)

although that does not explain my dislike for Suzuki cars
 
The reason for your dislike for Suzuki cars is . . . Suzuki cars.
 
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Who is Number One? by dewey
Oct 11, 2006 (9:17 am)
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Based on the latest survey from Strategic Vision Inc. BMW ranks as the number one brand in the industry in terms of customer satisfaction.
 
San Diego-based Strategic Vision surveyed more than 64,000 people who purchased new vehicles from October 2005 to March 2006. Participants were questioned after 90 days of ownership. The study, separate from Strategic Vision's quality survey, tries to capture whether consumers believe they got their money's worth and factors in emotional components.
 
Overall, BMW AG outperformed all companies, including Honda, but because it sells only luxury vehicles and the Mini sports coupe and convertible, it is not considered a full-line automaker.
 
As mentioned above the survey focuses on how satisfied a customer is with his/her car and not on how many problems arose with his/her car.
 
So it appears reliability issues may not affect the satisfaction of car ownership as much as what you would think--- escpecially after reading CR auto surveys. In other words the reliability issues faced by BMW owners are so insignificant that they do not at all affect BMW's highest ranking in terms of ownwer satisfaction .While the stellar non-existent reliability issues faced by Lexus owners does not increase the satisfaction of owning a Lexus as much as you would think it would.
 
Interestingly Toyota's satisfaction survery rankings are declining relative to Hyundai rankings.
 
BOTTOM LINE: There is more to owning a car than just reliability.
 
SOURCE: FORBES

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