Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#19735 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [hpowders]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:09 pm)
pray when I get picked up to go to the airport that it will not be one of those dreadfully ostentatious, seedy, stretched to the max Lincolns with 12 bottles of booze staring me in the face at 5AM! But sure enough, it always is!
Your lucky! Everytime I get picked up to go to the Airport I end up in the very same non-stretched rusty 1991 Crown Victoria Limousine with a bar that would make any AA member proud.
#19736 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [merc1]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:26 pm)
Is what I meant by Lexus taking the BMW pretenders or wannabes. Lexus will take some from this group for sure, no doubt so I think we're on the same page here as we are most of the time. Heck even I like the IS350, but would I take it over a 335i? Nope.
In fact I acutally chose a 335i over a IS350.
But I think it is a bit harsh to call Lexus IS drivers BMW wannabes and pretenders. They just have different priorities. A person who wants a fast car like the IS without the harsh ride of a sport packaged 335i is not neccessarily a BMW wannabe. In fact he is more likely to be someone who defines sport/luxury/ride/quality very differently from a enthusiast BMW buyer. MB C Class and Lexus IS drivers have a lot in common to each others. Just as BMW 3 drivers and Infiniti G drivers have a lot in common with each others. Calling a IS driver a BMW 3 wannabe is like calling a BMW 3 driver a MB C Class wannabe. That as you know is not the case at all.
#19737 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [ivan_99]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:27 pm)
The only problem with this theory is it assumes that the “mushy” people care at all about the sporty side.
It's a good perspective that has merit, and I like it. But another problem that makes it all difficult is that Lexus so often is the one with the "value" card, as well as being super-reliable. People have made this a big deal . . . too big a deal, IMO.
#19738 of 24726 Re: I purchased the Audi S8 [scottphillip]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:30 pm)
#19739 of 24726 Re: BIG DIESEL NEWS!! [dewey]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:31 pm)
Yeah I'm curious to see what Honda has done, but it will likely be a 4-cylinder they're talking about, not a V6??
#19740 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:35 pm)
Well I wasn't calling them wannabes as in they want a BMW, only that they want a sporty car, but aren't ready for a BMW (i.e. a true sporting, or sportier experience).
#19741 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [merc1]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:40 pm)
That will be my very last defense for Lexus tonight.
#19742 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:43 pm)
Your latest information regarding the BlueTec's use of the urea additive to be compliant in all 50 states is, therefore, the same as mine. It would seem that there is no corroboration of blkhemi's interpretation of the program with Doctor Z at this point in time.
I've gotta give huge kudos to Honda for their innovation here, in providing a 50-state diesel without the need for additives.
Mercedes should consider paying Honda to use its catalyst technology. But, of course, that won't happen.
#19743 of 24726 Re: BIG DIESEL NEWS!! [merc1]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:44 pm)
A diesel Acura TL V6 SH-AWD would be a very interesting car!
#19744 of 24726 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [tagman]
Oct 10, 2006 (8:49 pm)
Below a certain price level I tend to always favor Hondas
Above a certain price level I tend to always favor BMWs.
I guess I like car companies with a motorcycle tradition(although that does not explain my dislike for Suzuki cars)