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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [maxhonda99] by hpowders
Oct 09, 2006 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: maxhonda99 (Oct 09, 2006 5:59 am)

Absolutely. With 5.5, your head snaps back. With 6.0, it doesn't.
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Re: By The Way... [hpowders] by tagman
Oct 09, 2006 (6:56 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 09, 2006 5:58 am)

I took your Jack Nicholas joke "hook, line, and sinker!"
 
Man, you got me!!!!!!
 
 
 
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Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [hpowders] by tagman
Oct 09, 2006 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 09, 2006 6:36 am)

Absolutely. With 5.5, your head snaps back. With 6.0, it doesn't.
 
Neck-snapping REALLY depends upon first gear . . . and how quick it jumps out of the gate.
 
With LS460's very low first two gears, there could very well be some neck-snapping out of the gate, but the question would be if third gear and beyond keep it moving fast enough to achieve that 5.4 time.
 
Either way, at least you'll get a strong sense of its acceleration, even if you can't put a definate number on it.
 
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [tagman] by dewey
Oct 09, 2006 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 08, 2006 9:27 pm)

Great post Tagman.
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [merc1] by tagman
Oct 09, 2006 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Oct 08, 2006 9:36 pm)

Great read!
 
That part about Toyota sending people to BMW factories to look at their production techniques isn't going to be accepted by some of the Toyota/Lexus faithful.

 
Yeah, terrific article indeed. One of the best highlights of BMW to come along in a long time.
 
And for those that still do not beleive that Lexus has BMW in it's sights, this should help convince them, as BMW's Reithofer says it himself.
 
Toyota's Lexus also has BMW in its sights as it makes a move to gain in Europe with sportier, better-handling cars. "We will be challenged -- no question," says Reithofer. "We have to take Lexus seriously."
 
Glad you enjoyed it!
 
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Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [dewey] by tagman
Oct 09, 2006 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 09, 2006 7:11 am)

Great post Tagman.
 
Hey, Dewey, I knew you'd be one to enjoy it. Glad you did.
 
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BIG DIESEL NEWS!! by dewey
Oct 09, 2006 (7:19 am)
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I read in Autoweek that Audi, VW and BMW agreed to use MB's Blutec system in order to accomplish selling cars that can pass tough emissions standards like that in California.
 
Expect a Blutec VW Tiguan, BMW X5, Audi Q7 and Q5, Jeep Cherokees and ofcourse MB R, M and GL Classes.
 
In my case I am disappointed since I expected to get confirmed news about diesel cars and not only SUVs.
 
An interesting challenger to Blutec will be Honda's diesel system which is not bogged down with Blutec's urea bladder.
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Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [hpowders] by dewey
Oct 09, 2006 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Oct 09, 2006 4:16 am)

My mission at the Lexus Taste arranged in descending order of importance after a 4 hour drive will be:
restroom, wine, pate, restroom, acceleration, braking, cornering, Maalox, restroom, drive home.
It's always good to have a plan
.
 
Good luck with your mission. I hope you accomplish at least some of those things
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Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [dewey] by reality2
Oct 09, 2006 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 08, 2006 7:16 pm)

Actually, Audi does very well in automotive reviews against all its competitors. So, it is not about whether one make or another is preferred, but whether the reporting is genuine or factual. Many times there is a preconceived bias by automotive journalists just like all of us. It makes for entertaining reading, but not serious journalism. Yes, at the end of day it is about the buyer speaking so Audi has reported is best September in history across the board. So many buyers are speaking. Also, the 7-Series has yet to touch the A8L in majority of reviews. So, if you go by that logic, then why would anyone buy something inferior (a 7-Series) to something superior (an A8L) if the reviews state so over and over , yet choose the inferior product?

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