Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 6:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#19674 of 24723 Re: BusinessWeek on BMW - Great Article [tagman]
Oct 08, 2006 (10:36 pm)
Great read! It is no secret that BMW has been a better run company than either Mercedes or VW/Audi for a few years now. While VW dreamed of selling Mercedes-priced cars/suvs and Mercedes tried to cheap out on quality and buy up other troubled companies, BMW stayed true. Truthly I've liked BMW as a company better than Mercedes for a while now. Mercedes is still finding its way back as is VW/Audi. Only Porsche is run any better IMO when it comes to German car companies.
BMW is also willing to take more styling risks than either MB or VW/Audi too. You'd think with all the complaints and general dislike of idrive and their newly launched styling theme (2002 7-Series) BMW would be in trouble now, but just the opposite has happened. So much for critics.
That part about Toyota sending people to BMW factories to look at their production techniques isn't going to be accepted by some of the Toyota/Lexus faithful.
#19675 of 24723 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [lexusguy]
Oct 09, 2006 (4:59 am)
Wow! Looking forward to it. My 120 year old body should be just right for it by then.
Oct 09, 2006 (5:01 am)
as a company right now, I would be selling Toyota stock at this time and buying BMW shares aggressively.
#19677 of 24723 Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [brightness04]
Oct 09, 2006 (5:05 am)
When I drive the LS next month, I should have some idea of how fast it accelerates. Mine is about 5.5, pretty much the same.
#19678 of 24723 Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [tagman]
Oct 09, 2006 (5:16 am)
I hope there is no Lexus rep. For that, I could visit a Lexus dealer for a test drive.
My mission at the Lexus Taste arranged in descending order of importance after a 4 hour drive will be:
restroom, wine, pate, restroom, acceleration, braking, cornering, Maalox, restroom, drive home.
It's always good to have a plan.
#19679 of 24723 Re: By The Way... [hpowders]
Oct 09, 2006 (6:27 am)
Too bad you had to explain it to them. Your first post went right over their heads!!
#19680 of 24723 Re: By The Way... [houdini1]
Oct 09, 2006 (6:58 am)
Yes, it definitely went over one head. I kinda thought the "Relox" watch woulda done it.
I think I'll go out there and see if Jack Nicholas will do me the honor of allowing me to play with him today. He should agree if I give him 16 strokes! Heh! Heh!
Ya gotta love it!!
#19681 of 24723 Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [hpowders]
Oct 09, 2006 (6:59 am)
"When I drive the LS next month, I should have some idea of how fast it accelerates. Mine is about 5.5, pretty much the same. "
Can you really tell the difference between 5.5 and 6.0?
#19683 of 24723 Re: More reality check on LS460 vs. S-Class [maxhonda99]
Oct 09, 2006 (7:36 am)
Absolutely. With 5.5, your head snaps back. With 6.0, it doesn't.