High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#19617 of 24699 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [mariner7] by designman Oct 08, 2006 (10:06 am)
Replying to: mariner7 (Oct 08, 2006 8:36 am) Porsche and VW have been and will be aligned for a long lo-o-o-o-ng time. Plus it is in their DNA or emotional constitution, if you will, that MB will never go near them in terms of ownership. That's like Bush going into business with Bin Laden. Well, not quite that dramatic but you get the idea.
#19618 of 24699 None of the Cars by houdini1 Oct 08, 2006 (10:28 am)
on this forum are true performance cars, but they all aspire to it. They all also aspire to being reliable and luxurious as well. High End Luxury Marques. Performance is not even in the title. The mighty Lexus LS is the indisputable King of the HELM forum. Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 08, 2006 10:44 am)
#19619 of 24699 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [mariner7] by dewey Oct 08, 2006 (10:39 am)
Replying to: mariner7 (Oct 08, 2006 8:36 am) Interesting! Yes this could be a potential threat to BMW. It also could be a serious cannibalization threat to Audis if comparable Porsche sedans are more potent and exciting than Audi sedans. What will be the point of sporty stiff handling Porsche sedans when there already are Audi S/RS sedans? I read the new entry level Porsche Panamera will have a VW engine. It would not surprise me that a closer Porsche-VW relationship will give birth to Porsche sedans that iare based on a Audi platforms. Replies to this message: tagman (Oct 08, 2006 10:57 am) dewey (Oct 08, 2006 11:08 am)
#19620 of 24699 Re: None of the Cars [houdini1] by tagman Oct 08, 2006 (10:44 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 08, 2006 10:28 am) Performance is not even in the title Well then, a nice 8-speed luxurious Lazy-Boy recliner on wheels will do just fine. And I'll bet you will be the first to place your deposit! Personally, I am quite certain that performance is one inherent component of a HELM . . . and there ARE models here that have superior attributes in that arena. TagMan
#19621 of 24699 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [dewey] by tagman Oct 08, 2006 (10:57 am)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 08, 2006 10:39 am) What's your opinion then of the Toureg/Cayenne? TagMan Replies to this message: dewey (Oct 08, 2006 11:08 am)
#19622 of 24699 Re: Finally a threat to BMW? [tagman] by dewey Oct 08, 2006 (11:08 am)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 08, 2006 10:57 am) First and foremost I am no SUV fan to begin with. Even with kids and living up here in the Great White North I dont even see the need to own an SUV. Since I have a negative opinion of all SUVs I think it will be best to withhold my judgement on both the Cayenne and Touareg. How's that for diplomacy ? Now if only I could be this diplomatic about soft riding luxury cars
#19623 of 24699 Lexus vs Mercedes by merc1 Oct 08, 2006 (11:09 am)
For some reason I can't seem to find the interest in this right now..! M Replies to this message: dewey (Oct 08, 2006 11:15 am) syswei (Oct 08, 2006 11:25 am) merc1 (Oct 08, 2006 2:16 pm) designman (Oct 08, 2006 12:04 pm) merc1 (Oct 08, 2006 2:17 pm)
#19624 of 24699 Re: Lexus vs Mercedes [merc1] by dewey Oct 08, 2006 (11:15 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Oct 08, 2006 11:09 am) Merc1, the answer to you lack of interest is very obvious. After painfully trying to make a choice these past years between a MB CLK and a Lexus SC Coupe you finally made your decision. It was a very close call but at least you made your decision and it was a great surprise to all of us in this forum that you chose a Mercedes instead So now after your decision these Lexus vs. MB arguments have little relevance to you Replies to this message: syswei (Oct 08, 2006 11:25 am) merc1 (Oct 08, 2006 2:16 pm)
#19625 of 24699 Re: Lexus vs Mercedes [dewey] by syswei Oct 08, 2006 (11:25 am)
Replying to: dewey (Oct 08, 2006 11:15 am) Oh, yes, I'm sure merc1 needed these forums to help him decide to pick MB!
#19626 of 24699 Re: Another Reality Check [tagman] by Oct 08, 2006 (11:28 am)
Replying to: tagman (Oct 08, 2006 9:49 am) What am I talking about? That the LS is better-looking than the 750 or S550. That's all. Better-bangled than the 7. Not so Humpty as the S. Better taillights, and exhaust. Clear superiority. IMHO, of course. Don't need a mag to tell me which car looks good. I can handle that. I'm cool like that! DrFill Replies to this message: merc1 (Oct 08, 2006 2:15 pm)