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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#19527 of 24723 Re: No auto sales data today [oac]
by dewey
Oct 04, 2006 (2:21 pm)
My warmest greetings to you OAC.
Here is a quote about the LS from a Lexus PR man himself about how the current Lexus LS430 and previous LS models compared with other models:
At Lexus for instance, Mr. Carter concedes that up until now, when wealthy customers considered their choices for premium luxury cars, "we weren't on those shopping lists" next to the segment defining Mercedes S Class and BMW 7 series
SOURCE WALL STREET JOURNAL Sept. 25, 2006
#19528 of 24723 Re: No auto sales data today [tagman]
by justinstaford
Oct 04, 2006 (4:26 pm)
Hey guys, I do not understand some of the words here.
What is HELM??
#19529 of 24723 Re: No auto sales data today [justinstaford]
by maxhonda99
Oct 04, 2006 (5:00 pm)
HELM = "HIGH END LUXURY MARQUE"
#19530 of 24723 Re: No auto sales data today [dewey]
by nvbanker
Oct 04, 2006 (6:22 pm)
"If Kia introduced a luxury model they would steal market share from BMW and Lexus no matter how sub-par that Kia model is."
Oh, I don't think so. Kia has a luxury model, the Amanti. I dare you to find any former BMW owners who have switched. The Amanti isn't a bad car - it drives a lot like a cheap Buick. I can't see anybody cross-shopping it with a Bimmer.
#19531 of 24723 Re: No auto sales data today [tagman]
by hpowders
Oct 05, 2006 (4:16 am)
We have to see how LS sales go from about May 2007 going forward relative to sales of the 7 series and S-Class.
Only then will we have a somewhat accurate idea about the influence of the new LS' market share.
#19532 of 24723 Re: Latest U.S. Auto Sales Data [dewey]
by tayl0rd
Oct 05, 2006 (5:06 am)
Why should we wait for the '08 Accord, then?
#19533 of 24723 Re: And... [hpowders]
by tayl0rd
Oct 05, 2006 (5:29 am)
Sometimes I just don't want to draw attention with the 545, such as in certain parking lots where kids hang out.
You do know that the Accord is the most stolen car in the U.S.? You have a better chance of your 545 still being where you parked it than you do with the Accord!
#19534 of 24723 Re: And... [tayl0rd]
by hpowders
Oct 05, 2006 (7:12 am)
I was thinking more on the lines of malicious vandalism such as (gulp!) keying.
If folks can steal a vehicle equipped with alarm and engine immobilizer from a high-traffic parking lot with security cars riding around, more power to 'em, I say.
#19535 of 24723 Re: And... [hpowders]
by tayl0rd
Oct 05, 2006 (7:15 am)
Never underestimate a common thief.
#19536 of 24723 Re: Dewey [dhamilton]
by designman
Oct 05, 2006 (7:21 am)
I once got in to it with the guys on the Subaru board as I found it a little ridiculous that I was denied a test drive of an STI.
Very brand-loyal over there, like some of the Lexus loyalty we see, maybe moreso.