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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 03, 2006 2:56 pm) 
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Replying to: justinstaford (Oct 03, 2006 5:48 pm) |
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 03, 2006 2:56 pm) Maybe in your dealership But currently BMW 3 series USA sales are up double digits compared to September MTD and YTD 2005 figures  |
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 03, 2006 2:56 pm) Thanks, but let me clarify. I think the new 3-Series should do quite well, and even improve in year-to-year sales figures, but the IS will still take some market share. Where else would it mostly come from? So, in that regard the Lexus IS will convert a fair number of otherwise 3-Series sales, even if 3-Series sales climb. I am still watching the GS to see if it will have much impact. I am just not that convinced. The LS460, however, WILL take market share from the 7-Series, IMO. Of course, it will also take market share from the S-Class, but that is another discussion. My prediction hasn't changed. Lexus will increasingly take market share from BMW. That's how I see it. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 04, 2006 8:56 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Oct 04, 2006 8:56 am) Is that so? Prove it! It will be more appropriate to discuss this matter in the HELM forum. I dont want to disrupt the LS discussion here.
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 04, 2006 9:41 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Oct 04, 2006 9:00 am) Sounds like the language of bunk to me! The only reason the IS has gained market share is because the prior generation of IS sales were practically non-existent! |
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Oct 04, 2006 9:47 am) I know Tagman's opinion but I dont know his reasoning yet? |
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Replying to: dewey (Oct 04, 2006 9:55 am) The brief is that even if the market grows, the market share is still up for grabs, and that as Lexus improves styling and performance, it will not just be the Mercedes vehicles that are affected. The Lexus engineers and market geniuses are snipers that have placed BMW in their crosshairs. There is little doubt of this, and all major reviewers have already acknowledged this. The comps to BMW are increasing everywhere. I could go on and on, but I'm staying with this perspective until I am convinced otherwise. At this point I believe it more than ever, but time will tell, of course, as it always does. I understand your point about the IS being a previous slug, but where do you think the market share is coming from now that there ARE buyers for the IS? Think about it. TagMan |
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