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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

#19035 of 24699 Re: Toyota Ramp Up by drfill Sep 19, 2006 (1:06 pm)
http://www.nbc13.com/money/7876154/detail.html     Sounds like a 5-year plan to make it into the Top 3.     Place your bets.       DrFill
#19036 of 24699 Re: Elegance? [dewey] by designman Sep 19, 2006 (1:17 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 12:57 pm) WHat if this 5 series became reality?    Then I can almost guarantee you that BMW 5 series repeat sales will plummet.   You can't guarantee that. I said the same exact thing about the E60 5-series three years ago. I recall saying they would be giving them away at the end of the first model year. Never happened in spite of the dismay and schism it caused what with the online petition and everything.   Let's not worry about this now because these photoillustrations we are seeing are NOT the next 5-series. Replies to this message: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 6:32 pm)
#19037 of 24699 Toyota will make it to the big 3 by blkhemi Sep 19, 2006 (1:19 pm)
This is not a question of if, but when. But to answer KB, that 13.9% is the projected finish for the '06 m/y, not mtm.   And the General is down in the US for now, but worldwide their up 8.9% and with the new stuff with interest starting to roll off of the assmebly lines, they be back in shape faster than we thought.   Yes Toyota has introduced the Corolla in China, but to little interest. All of the General's subs. are the kings there. particular China market only Buicks, which outpace their next in class comp. 4-1. Funny, until the Lucerne got here, it was vice versa in the home market.   I may be the lone star, but I have much faith in this company. This is not the first time this companu has been in this much trouble, particulurly under the "Roger and Me" regime. They will pull through, especially judging from their new plan of action, which is apparently working as investors have let off some steam and GM's rating no longer being considered "junk" on the stocks... Replies to this message: killerbunny (Sep 20, 2006 9:41 am)
#19038 of 24699 Re: Elegance? [dewey] by hpowders Sep 19, 2006 (1:52 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 12:57 pm) I am dismayed that after coming out with such a bold design as the current 5 series, BMW would take such a giant step backward with a blatant rip-off of a tail-light design we have been seeing a bit too much of these days. This from the newly dubbed "Company of Ideas?" Sheesh! Replies to this message: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 6:37 pm) hpowders (Sep 19, 2006 8:05 pm)
#19039 of 24699 Re: Elegance? [tagman] by pat HOST Sep 19, 2006 (3:38 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Sep 19, 2006 9:08 am) >> (although edited his response)   Ooh, that is TOO hard to let pass.   I do believe many of us make liberal use of the Edit feature, wouldn't you agree, Tag, my friend?   And I do the same. Sometimes you just can't get your thoughts expressed correctly until you see them posted one, two, six times.   I'm working on using the Preview feature but keep forgetting... Replies to this message: hpowders (Sep 19, 2006 5:11 pm) tagman (Sep 19, 2006 5:58 pm) hpowders (Sep 19, 2006 6:10 pm)
#19040 of 24699 Re: Elegance? [pat] by hpowders Sep 19, 2006 (5:11 pm)
Replying to: pat (Sep 19, 2006 3:38 pm) Thanks Pat for pointing out the editing feature.   I must try it some time now that I realize it is not a crime to use it.
#19041 of 24699 Re: I do believe.... [hpowders] by pearl Sep 19, 2006 (5:45 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Sep 19, 2006 10:36 am) that they ought to can both the I-drive and the Bangle design. While I am not blown away by the pics of the reported 09 model, I like that version much more than the current E60. I do agree with you that the I-drive needs to be relegated to the historical garbage dump. I am aware of absolutely NO praise for this system on any BMW vehicle over the past several years. BMW would be nuts to bring out a new 5 and not get rid of this constant source of complaints. Replies to this message: hpowders (Sep 19, 2006 6:09 pm) tagman (Sep 19, 2006 6:40 pm)
#19042 of 24699 Re: Elegance? [pat] by tagman Sep 19, 2006 (5:58 pm)
Replying to: pat (Sep 19, 2006 3:38 pm) I do believe many of us make liberal use of the Edit feature, wouldn't you agree, Tag, my friend?   liberal? . . . Heck, I'd hard wire it, if it were possible. No one edits more than the TagMan! Well . . . maybe hpowders!   But, truly THANKS for pointing out the preview feature. I'll give it a try. Maybe it'll prevent such liberal use of the Edit feature.   TagMan Replies to this message: hpowders (Sep 19, 2006 6:10 pm)
#19043 of 24699 Re: I do believe.... [pearl] by hpowders Sep 19, 2006 (6:09 pm)
Replying to: pearl (Sep 19, 2006 5:45 pm) I can live with the Bangle design more than I can the iDrive. It is way too complicated and believe it shows extreme arrogance on BMW's part not to listen to all the negative press and consumer complaints.   I consider myself reasonably intelligent, (although I have been known to edit a post or two) and have given up switching between AM and FM stations. I just keep it on FM.   When the auto mags and regular folk criticized Lexus for the electronic meddling, they listened and now provide an off switch.   It would be nice if BMW would get off its high horse and listen to the folks, admit it made a mistake and provide a more user friendly system. And if they refuse to do that, at the very least they should move to make it an option across the entire line. Replies to this message: tagman (Sep 19, 2006 6:40 pm)
#19044 of 24699 Re: Elegance? [tagman] by hpowders Sep 19, 2006 (6:10 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Sep 19, 2006 5:58 pm) I would like to interact with you on this topic but I am too busy editing my response to Pearl.

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