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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Elegance? by dewey
Sep 19, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Hp, Tagman and Hemi,
 
ironically as other car makers are influenced by Bangle design (MB and Lexus), BMW is fleeing from its Bangle roots.
 
I hear the word elegance for the new 5 series. I guess elegance and conservatism in this case can be used interchangeabeably.
 
But then again these BMW pictures today are just as shocking as the rumors about a military coupe in Thailand.
 
Maybe there is a coupe in Bavaria and Chris Bangle is in handcuffs under house arrest
 
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Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey] by designman
Sep 19, 2006 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 6:22 am)

It sucks. That car will not be on my shopping list if that's the way it will look, ultimate driving machine be damned. Designmen don't want to be caught dead in something like that. After putting out the E92 3-series coupe and X5 they stumble back to that nonsense? How gauche. I am confident that will not be it... in my humble but passionate opinion, of course.
 
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Re: Elegance? [dewey] by tagman
Sep 19, 2006 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 8:45 am)

This is interesting that even we, on this forum, who regularly scrutinize cars, do not agree on this rumored vehicle.
 
Immediately after Dewey posted the pics, HP criticized it (although edited his response), but I stood up for the design, as did blkhemi. Now D-man gives it a thumbs down, totally opposite of blkhemi and me.
 
This just proves one thing . . . blkhemi and I have a better eye (lol).
 
But seriously, it sounds as though you are suggesting that this may not even be the real deal anyway.
 
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Re: Elegance? [dewey] by blkhemi
Sep 19, 2006 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 19, 2006 8:45 am)

As noted, this is just a rumored designed, not the real deal Holyfield.
 
It is highly doubtful that they'll leave the car this way. Case and Point:
 
When the spy shots came out on the new X5, I thought to myself, what the heck are they doing? They already have the 530xi Wagon, as that what it was looking like. Then the official picks from Bavaria came out, and all was well. And just yesterday, Merc posted a pic of the new interior. Ultra posh.
 
So let's not get up in arms over something that may or may not be for real. As I stated, I highly doubt BMW will leave that rear-end that droopy with a Japanese styling treatment. Only the Jetta can get away with a vacation at Toyota's styling salon. And you see it's lost it's cult following...
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Revealing Business Data by tagman
Sep 19, 2006 (9:43 am)
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Check out this data:
 
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TagMan
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Re: Elegance? [blkhemi] by tagman
Sep 19, 2006 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Sep 19, 2006 9:38 am)

So let's not get up in arms over something that may or may not be for real. As I stated, I highly doubt BMW will leave that rear-end that droopy with a Japanese styling treatment.
 
Good point, but I still think the rumored car is decent . . . no, elegant.
 
TagMan
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Re: 2009 BMW 5 Series [dewey] by drfill
Sep 19, 2006 (10:27 am)
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I have to agree with Dewey and D-man, that is a pretty homely BMW, if that is the future of it.
  
   Just like the old Chevy Tahoe to the 2007 Tahoe, they polished out all the aggression and style, and controversy, and went into a non-offensive mode that will endear it to no one.
 
   I am a HUGE fan of the "Bangled" 5, just not the standard iDrive in most models. The 550i would be perfect midsize sport sedan, but it has a heavy cross to bear!
 
   Let's fix that problem before we emasculate the thing, k?
 
   DrFill
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I do believe.... by hpowders
Sep 19, 2006 (10:36 am)
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BMW is attempting to fix the wrong part of this vehicle, IMO.
 
Leave the inspired, gloriously sexy, animalistic, aerodynamically-styled for driving excitement masterpiece that is the Bangle 5 Series design alone and get rid of that ridiculous iDrive (you tune the radio) controller. If they must keep it, at least give us back a normal push button-tuning radio which can easily be switched from AM to FM without my having to have an advanced degree in computer science with the controller.
 
It's too bad sales are way up thanks to Bangle's brave and bold design, and BMW misinterprets that as positive confirmation of the iDrive (you crazy).
I fear they will never get rid of it.
 
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Re: Toyota recalls by drfill
Sep 19, 2006 (10:37 am)
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Comparing the legendary Exploder/Tombstone Tire recall to Toyota's is like comparing the Titanic to the Staten Island Ferry!
 
   Having taken a check or two from Ford in my day, I can speak from experience that the Exploder problem was quite special. There were a few deaths, and permanent injuries attributed, plus the lawsuits that followed, plus, this was a largely American phenomenon. given the Exploder is a largely American-only product.
 
   If we should have learned nothing over the years of this forum, it is that Americans could give a darn about what happens in the 3rd-world, which constitutes anywhere Bush hopes to colonize, holiday, or wire-tap, sans warrant.
 
   The way things are going, this phone line has been totally compromised.
 
   The point is, if 'Yota has 800k recalls in China, we don't care.
 
   If no Americans died, it's not a story. Just fodder.
  
   Funny how Ford used to make news, now they just make fodder...
   
   DrFill

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