High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18977 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [lexusguy] by merc1 Sep 17, 2006 (8:19 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 17, 2006 7:30 pm) The new Navigator is horrific. Just more proof that Lincoln has absolutely no idea what it's doing, and is just throwing darts in the dark. Oh god yes. Have you seen those gauges? They're right out of something that was on the road before I was born! The grille looks like chicken wire most of the time. Ford obviously didn't have enough money to redesign the whole platform for all their large suvs so they've resorted to a "facelift" to face the newer models from Cadillac and others. M Replies to this message: blkhemi (Sep 17, 2006 9:38 pm) merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 10:04 pm) lexusguy (Sep 18, 2006 4:42 am)
#18978 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [merc1] by tagman Sep 17, 2006 (8:24 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 8:16 pm) Put a diesel in that X5, and I'd consider the thing. TagMan Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 8:39 pm) blkhemi (Sep 17, 2006 9:49 pm) merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 9:55 pm) and 8 more...
#18979 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [tagman] by merc1 Sep 17, 2006 (8:39 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Sep 17, 2006 8:24 pm) Well I'm sure BMW, Audi and anyone else wanting to sell a diesel in all 50 states is going to be waiting to see how the EPA and Mercedes-Benz settle the whole thing about customers adding and keeping track of Adblue in their cars. I've read all types of things on this. The EPA even wanted automakers to make it where the vehicle won't start if it is running low or is out of adblue! Naturally MB and GM (suprise) objected to this. The EPA is supposed to announce their guidelines by the end of the year. BMW has specifically stated that they will not sell a diesel here until they can do so in all 50 states. M Replies to this message: blkhemi (Sep 17, 2006 9:49 pm) merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 9:55 pm) tagman (Sep 18, 2006 6:55 am) and 5 more... dewey (Sep 18, 2006 11:14 am) and 1 more...
#18980 of 24699 Dag, Merc! by Sep 17, 2006 (8:44 pm)
I didn't know you made your bones selling Acuras! We may need to change your moniker DrFill Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 9:01 pm)
#18981 of 24699 Re: Dag, Merc! [] by merc1 Sep 17, 2006 (9:01 pm)
Replying to: unknown (Sep 17, 2006 8:44 pm) I do like other brands/cars, many others Doc. I've liked Acuras since 1986 (day one) in some form or another. The original legends and especially the 1995 GS version really put Acura in with me. Of course there have been some dour years, especially after the "Legend" left the lineup, but that is another story. M
#18982 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [merc1] by blkhemi Sep 17, 2006 (9:31 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 8:16 pm) That X5 interior is absolutely beautiful. I love that color combo scheme. On the MDX, what I've come up with is Acura's usual restraint. They don't won't to over do it, but they don't sweat the details enough to make a potential buyer go "wow", much unlike an Audi or Lexus or MB GL buyer would do. The fake wood is a bit of a let down, especially with the brand being reported saying that they are wanting to take the MDX up market. But if they've improved the handling dynamics and have eliminated that floaty ride, it may be worth a look.
#18983 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [merc1] by blkhemi Sep 17, 2006 (9:38 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 8:19 pm) I they think it takes 93 days average to sell just one Navigator off a lot, then wait to one of the buyers go to upgrade from the 3 year old model to new to only find out they can't read the gauges because they're from 50 YEARS AGO. And to boot, with a Cadillac dealer usually very close to the Lincoln dealer it will be very hard to: Move the MKS= CTS Move the MKZ= SRX Move the Navigator= Escalade Move the T/C= America's fav. domestic, the DTS And the LS doesn't stand a chance against an STS Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 10:04 pm) lexusguy (Sep 18, 2006 4:42 am)
#18984 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [merc1] by blkhemi Sep 17, 2006 (9:49 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 8:39 pm) The EPA did not expect the automakers to be able to rise to the new certification laws set forth by the government until 2010 at the very earliest. Well when MB saw that the demand for the E320 CDI started to exceed supply, things got pretty interesting at DCX. So much so that they've put a ML, GL, S, and even some 300 and Charger Bluetec Chryslers through the ringer with the EPA to get certification. And with the outcry for more fuel efficient cars in all classes, the automakers have gotten the technology to the table faster than expected. So now there are addendums and by-laws attached in an attempt to smack down the car guys. But they're not going away easily. You've got automakers collaborating on diesel-electric technology. You've got an automaker that has just poured an extra $1B in it's HSD program. And it goes on and on. With the EPA actually asking makers to have an override to not let the car start if it's deemed not efficient enough is a testament of how far they'd go. Well the damage is done. Where were they in the last 100 years?? Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 17, 2006 9:55 pm) tagman (Sep 18, 2006 6:55 am) blkhemi (Sep 18, 2006 7:49 am) and 4 more... dewey (Sep 18, 2006 11:14 am) merc1 (Sep 18, 2006 8:18 pm)
#18985 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [blkhemi] by merc1 Sep 17, 2006 (9:55 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Sep 17, 2006 9:49 pm) Yeah I'm really curious to see how this plays out. Once this hurdle is cleared there will be a sizeable diesel push by the Germans I predict. BMW has a particularly strong 6-cylinder engine in Europe. I think C&D tested a 330d recently and asked the question whether or not it was the best 3-Series. I think between the E/GL/R/ML and upcoming S and even the C, I think MB can move about 40K diesels a year. I think. M Replies to this message: tagman (Sep 18, 2006 6:55 am) blkhemi (Sep 18, 2006 7:49 am) tagman (Sep 18, 2006 9:51 am) and 3 more... dewey (Sep 18, 2006 11:14 am) merc1 (Sep 18, 2006 8:18 pm)
#18986 of 24699 Re: 2007 Acura MDX interior shots [blkhemi] by merc1 Sep 17, 2006 (10:04 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Sep 17, 2006 9:38 pm) Yeah Lincoln is just wandering around aimlessly. The new MKS sedan they have coming next year won't have a V8. Makes no sense because it is based on the new Volvo S80 chassis and the Volvo will offer the V8. Then there is Linc's new naming convention. MKX, MKS, MKZ nothing but mass confusion, IMO. I just came to realize another why American car companies can't make any headway, they don't stick to anything. Who comes out with a car and changes the name and facelifts it for the second model year? This is the case with the Zephyr. I mean doesn't that confuse buyers and make the first year car something of an orphan? They'll run with a nameplate for a few redesigns and then dump it, usually after they're ruined it anyway so I guess I can see why they change, but it is still a defeatism practice. The only real bright spot, IMO is that new crossover , the MK something. M Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 18, 2006 4:42 am)