Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#18865 of 24726 Re: S Class Cabrio? [merc1]
Sep 13, 2006 (8:49 am)
but a 4-door convertible S550, never! IMO of course.
Well Merc you know the old saying: "Never ever say never".
Apparently the sister company of MB will likely be introducing a 4 door convertible in the form of the next generation Chrysler 300C. If there is a 4 door convertible Chrysler than why not a 4 door convertible S Class Benz?
Also notice that the link below provides no mention whatsoever of platform sharing between the future LX platform of the 300C and the MB E Class.
I strongly believe the rumors of increased platform sharing between the future 300C and the E Class are highly unlikely.
2010 Chrysler 300C Convertible
#18866 of 24726 Re: Question [syswei]
Sep 13, 2006 (8:54 am)
Our previous rhetoric and debates won't matter. The marketplace will allow for the S550 to have the horsepower advantage, the LS460 to have the Lexus "value" in comparison to the S550, and for the S450 to offer the Mercedes "value" in comparison to the LS460.
At this point, that's how I see it.
And remember, all S-Class vehicles are long wheelbase, BTW.
#18867 of 24726 FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3
Sep 13, 2006 (9:03 am)
I remember reading all this hullaballoo about the Lexus LS Self- Park feature. Who cares about parking when you can get a car that can drive itself? Well folks it appeare First Auto Works from China has a sophisticated new car with a self drive feature.
Here is a picture of the FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3 :
Chinese carmaker First Auto Works (FAW) is demonstrating a sedan that drives itself. Equipped with two cameras hooked up to a computer guidance system of some sort, the FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3 prototype is designed to navigate its way through streets, avoiding obstacles and stopping at traffic signals.
FAW demonstrated the car at the Northeast Asia Investment and Trade Expo, where it was limited to a snail-pace 37 mph, though the automaker claims it could safely operate at speeds up to 93 mph
Here is my dire warning: Once you allow yourself to buy a car that electronically self parks itself then what will stop you from buying a future car that will self drive itself? If this temptation is prevalent among car buyers then driving enthusiasts will become nothing more than relics of the past ( in other words as extinct as a Tasmanian Tiger)
#18868 of 24726 Re: FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3 [dewey]
Sep 13, 2006 (9:33 am)
You must have missed my post last month about the Volkswagen vehicle that drives itself.
#18869 of 24726 Re: FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3 [tagman]
Sep 13, 2006 (9:35 am)
This self-drive idea is spreading like a contagious disease.
#18870 of 24726 Re: FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3 [dewey]
Sep 13, 2006 (9:45 am)
I suppose the next logical step is for the car to self-order itself as a newer model when the current lease expires...
#18871 of 24726 Re: FAW Hongqi (Red Flag) HQ3 [ivan_99]
Sep 13, 2006 (10:34 am)
and then deliver itself to your house.
#18872 of 24726 So the Q7 is a lemon, well...
Sep 13, 2006 (10:42 am)
Did we miss all of the tranny probs over at Acura MDX? All of the broken suspension pieces of the rude n' crude ruff n' tumble Caddy Escalade? The air-suspension failures and sludge build up in the engines of the LC/LX Toyota's? Then for sure you must've read all of the posts about the all-time lemon, the QX56?
Folks, no car on inception is a safe bet. The Q7 has been a strong seller in Europe(number 1 in sales, handidly beating the GL(4-1), X, and various Euro models) and is off to a great start in the States, boosting Audi's sales over 41%, along with the A4. For sure that number will only grow when the introduce they V-6 variant as you're reading this and the hi-po V10 and V12 TDI.
The Q7 doesn't appear to have all of the inherit electrical probs that the T'regg/Cayenne has. If the models were such lemons, then how would Porsche stay in the top 3 of all out reliability with the Cayenne being such a popular vehicle? You can't have it both ways. And if you think the Q7 is a lemon, then the Porsche must be a lemon with a little vinegar on it because this thing is loaded with way more stuff than it's cousins, altho the Audi is only loosely based on them.
In summation, if I listened to all of the ranting and disgruntled posters here, I would've never bought an MB or Audi. But all of my cars have served me as promised. Even the supposed pathetic A8 has been one of the most reliable cars that we've ever owned. Some people who own a Lexus, Toyota, Infiniti, or Acura don't get in their cars everyday and it works like a gem. Read the posts, and you'll find out....
Sep 13, 2006 (11:00 am)
it's a little early to call the Q7 a lemon although their are problems. If 6 months to a year go by and those problems still persist, then I will jump on board. I talked my wife out of the Toureg with all the problems I read about even though it drove better than half the suv's in the class. The problem with the toureg is that it seems as though the problems are varying and numerous. I don't see as many varying issues with the Q7 as of yet, but the night is young so to speak.
Sep 13, 2006 (11:16 am)
if this "new" BMW I6 will usher the return of the 735i? Three hundred HP should be plenty to get that battleship moving.