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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [nvbanker] by hpowders
Sep 02, 2006 (3:20 pm)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Sep 02, 2006 2:37 pm)

I know I read that the ES and Camry shared a platform at one time.
I would hope those days are now over.
 
Are they?
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Re: BMW Buffoonery [dewey] by tagman
Sep 02, 2006 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 02, 2006 1:57 pm)

Ok let us try going a bit below the surface. I linked the 2005 BMW Anuual Report below:
 
Where's ljflx when we need him?
 
TagMan
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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [hpowders] by lexusguy
Sep 02, 2006 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Sep 02, 2006 3:20 pm)

I know I read that the ES and Camry shared a platform at one time.
I would hope those days are now over.

 
The ES and Camry share something like 30% of their parts. As I said before, Toyota could do a "super premium" package for the V6 Camry with real wood, the ML stereo, etc. Nobody would buy it. No one's going to pay $37K+ for a Camry.
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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [lexusguy] by hpowders
Sep 02, 2006 (4:42 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 02, 2006 3:28 pm)

Thanks. I didn't realize that about the 30% sharing.
 
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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [hpowders] by dewey
Sep 02, 2006 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Sep 02, 2006 4:42 pm)

Thanks. I didn't realize that about the 30% sharing
 
That is exactly why I said Toyota is the best platform sharing company in the world. Many ES and RX buyers are not even aware that their car is sharing the platform of a more humbler Toyota.
 
Kudos for Lexus marketing.
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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [dewey] by hpowders
Sep 03, 2006 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 02, 2006 7:36 pm)

Well, I guess if Lexus didn't share a bit with Toyota, the prices of Lexus vehicles would be significantly higher, resulting in sales significantly lower.
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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [dewey] by tagman
Sep 03, 2006 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Sep 02, 2006 7:36 pm)

That is exactly why I said Toyota is the best platform sharing company in the world. Many ES and RX buyers are not even aware that their car is sharing the platform of a more humbler Toyota.
  
Kudos for Lexus marketing.

 
True. Recently, while chatting with some friends about their Lexus SUV, I mentioned something about the Toyota platform, and not as a put-down or anything, and they were oblivious to the fact, and I could tell that it darned near insulted them. Whoa. Close call. I said no more about it.
 
There was no way they wanted to know that their Lexus SUV was really based upon a Toyota!
 
Makes me wonder how many others are like that out there?
 
TagMan
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A Good Review OF The New LS by hpowders
Sep 03, 2006 (6:10 am)
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See post 2670, 2007 LS thread for the link:
 
The sportier suspension seems to eliminate body lean and the brakes are fine and feel "normal."
 
So we have a tie on the brakes: one for, one against.
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Re: MB/DCX platform sharing!?!? [tagman] by houdini1
Sep 03, 2006 (6:51 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Sep 03, 2006 6:02 am)

Good point. I am sure the same would apply to Audi/Volkswagen and Mercedes/Chrysler owners.
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Edmunds True Cost To Own by houdini1
Sep 03, 2006 (10:21 am)
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I know this is not important to most of you here but I decided to do some calculations comparing the 2006 LS 430 with the car it is mostly compared to here, the Mercedes S 600. True cost of ownership over 5 years as follows:
 
1. Mercedes- $178,633. (Yikes!)
2. Lexus- $77,212.
 
Now I can better understand the exclusivity of the S 600, though it seems to be a rather poor investment.

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