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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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The British are coming...or going... by merc1
Sep 01, 2006 (2:56 am)
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Ford doesn't know what it wants to do with its PAG group. Now it is saying that Aston-Martin is for sale. I guess no one wanted Jaguar or Jaguar+Land Rover. Prestige wise they'd be nuts to sell Aston-Martin IMO, the brand is finally on it's feet and selling/bulding more than 90 cars a year. Business wise I guess it makes sense because they could likely get a pretty penny for Aston-Martin right now. What next selling Volvo?
 
It gets better, BMW is supposedly interested in buying Aston-Martin. Aston would make a perfect fit in the BMW Group IMO. Aston would fit in neatly between BMW and Rolls-Royce which is sizeable gap. There would be no overlap between BMW and Aston or Aston and Rolls. BMW could bring Aston's quality up to BMW's level and give Aston some help in the engine room, the V12 needs a power boost and the V8 in Vantage could be replaced with a M designed V8. This could work.
 
I can only imagine the mood at the highest, most secretive levels at Dearborn - complete and utter panic. Ford is brainstorm and crunching numbers like mad to see what they can get for this and what they can get for that.
 
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Re: HELM engines [tagman] by syswei
Sep 01, 2006 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 8:23 pm)

Avg. Displacement Across the Lineup
5.90 Liters MB

 
hahahahaha. You've got to question the accuracy of this guy's calculations.
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Re: Lexus [merc1] by ctsang
Sep 01, 2006 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:19 pm)

The new 300 will use the new E platform.
 
Just wait and see. This is from an insider in Auburn Hills, MI. They have to do it to save money.
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Re: Lexus [merc1] by houdini1
Sep 01, 2006 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:25 pm)

I agree that this should be an easy point to grasp. They are similar because they are both at the top concerning excellent practices, etc. Others are trying to catch up.
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Re: HELM engines [tagman] by houdini1
Sep 01, 2006 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 8:41 pm)

Tag, in addition to all your other accomplishments, I see that you are now an expert on engine design. WOW. Lexus should be calling any second for more of your brilliant insights!
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Re: Lexus [tagman] by snapcracklepop
Sep 01, 2006 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 11:11 am)

I agree, there needs to be more differentiation and distinction between the brands, Honda/Acura suffers it too although my TSX does look different enough from an Accord both exterior/interior wise to satisfy me.
 
Lexus/Toyota's gotten better over the years at increasing the gap between the two but it's clear to see the resemblance between Avalon's and LS's
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a fun SUV from Japan?....C&D on the 2007 MDX by syswei
Sep 01, 2006 (6:23 am)
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The first driving impression we gained at Acura’s press launch of its brand-new 2007 MDX in western Pennsylvania wasn’t on the road. It was on a track. And so confident was Acura in the dynamic talents of its new 7-passenger crossover ute, it brought along a trio of competitors, including the Porsche Cayenne V-6, the BMW X5 4.4i and the Volvo XC90 V-8.
 
How did it do? Beautifully, honestly, trouncing the Volvo, out-gunning the fat Cayenne and nearly matching the X5 in the fun-to-drive arena. Most telling was its behavior in transitory moves under full throttle. That’s when Acura’s sophisticated, full-time Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive (SH-AWD) system—which varies torque distribution not only from front to rear, but from one rear wheel to the other, depending on traction conditions—showed off its talents most clearly. With the MDX’s optional active dampers calming body motions, it felt as if the hand of God was cupped on the rear bumper, scooting the car through every curve. There was never any sort of compromise of stability or traction. Just confident, high-speed, high-thrill curve carving. Brilliant.
 
....it appears that this new vehicle is something even ardent car-lovers like us could enjoy.

 
article
 
I like it except for the fake wood.
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Re: HELM engines [houdini1] by hpowders
Sep 01, 2006 (6:46 am)
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Re: HELM engines [syswei] by ivan_99
Sep 01, 2006 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Sep 01, 2006 3:39 am)

I know...how about 4.2L for Audi…they must sell a lot of W12’s.
 
I think this guy (sitting in his parents basement) sometimes invents information so he’ll have fresh content (fresh but inaccurate)
 
I think…that he just added up the sizes sold for each type of model…then divided by the models…that it is not based on sales.
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Re: HELM engines [houdini1] by tagman
Sep 01, 2006 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Sep 01, 2006 5:05 am)

Tag, in addition to all your other accomplishments, I see that you are now an expert on engine design. WOW. Lexus should be calling any second for more of your brilliant insights!
 
Thanks for the sarcastic compliment, but which brilliant insights are you referring to? Are you suggesting that posting a link about engines was brilliant? Gimmee a break.
 
I certainly want to take all the credit I can (lol) . . . but in this case I am not sure what the heck you are talking about.
 
TagMan

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