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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

#18554 of 24698 Re: Lexus [houdini1] by pat HOST Sep 01, 2006 (1:01 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 5:28 pm)
#18555 of 24698 Re: Ford to sell off Aston, possibly Jag? [lexusguy] by merc1 Sep 01, 2006 (1:05 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 01, 2006 12:58 am) The $30-40K entry lux market is the toughest gun fight in the luxury biz. Jaguar brought a rusty butter knife, and they paid for it.   Hilarious LG!   M Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 01, 2006 1:16 am) merc1 (Sep 01, 2006 1:39 am)
#18556 of 24698 Re: Ford to sell off Aston, possibly Jag? [merc1] by lexusguy Sep 01, 2006 (1:16 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Sep 01, 2006 1:05 am) I also don't think life support cash infusions qualifies as "good things for the brand". Jaguar is giving cars away with enormous incentives, its resale values are laughable, and all of the new dealers that signed on for the "200,000 cars a year Jag" are either becoming glorified used car lots\service stations, or going out of business. Bang up job, Ford. Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 01, 2006 1:39 am)
#18557 of 24698 Re: Ford to sell off Aston, possibly Jag? [lexusguy] by merc1 Sep 01, 2006 (1:39 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Sep 01, 2006 1:16 am) Yeah the situation is pretty bad right now. Most of the Jaguar dealers here have brand new facilities. Some of them are joined with other brands and some aren't. Those that aren't are stacked with used cars from all brands.   M
#18558 of 24698 The British are coming...or going... by merc1 Sep 01, 2006 (2:56 am)
Ford doesn't know what it wants to do with its PAG group. Now it is saying that Aston-Martin is for sale. I guess no one wanted Jaguar or Jaguar+Land Rover. Prestige wise they'd be nuts to sell Aston-Martin IMO, the brand is finally on it's feet and selling/bulding more than 90 cars a year. Business wise I guess it makes sense because they could likely get a pretty penny for Aston-Martin right now. What next selling Volvo?   It gets better, BMW is supposedly interested in buying Aston-Martin. Aston would make a perfect fit in the BMW Group IMO. Aston would fit in neatly between BMW and Rolls-Royce which is sizeable gap. There would be no overlap between BMW and Aston or Aston and Rolls. BMW could bring Aston's quality up to BMW's level and give Aston some help in the engine room, the V12 needs a power boost and the V8 in Vantage could be replaced with a M designed V8. This could work.   I can only imagine the mood at the highest, most secretive levels at Dearborn - complete and utter panic. Ford is brainstorm and crunching numbers like mad to see what they can get for this and what they can get for that.   M Replies to this message: lexusguy (Sep 01, 2006 10:38 am) merc1 (Sep 02, 2006 4:31 am)
#18559 of 24698 Re: HELM engines [tagman] by syswei Sep 01, 2006 (3:39 am)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 8:23 pm) Avg. Displacement Across the Lineup 5.90 Liters MB   hahahahaha. You've got to question the accuracy of this guy's calculations. Replies to this message: ivan_99 (Sep 01, 2006 6:47 am)
#18560 of 24698 Re: Lexus [merc1] by ctsang Sep 01, 2006 (4:48 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:19 pm) The new 300 will use the new E platform.   Just wait and see. This is from an insider in Auburn Hills, MI. They have to do it to save money. Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 02, 2006 4:25 am)
#18561 of 24698 Re: Lexus [merc1] by houdini1 Sep 01, 2006 (4:57 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:25 pm) I agree that this should be an easy point to grasp. They are similar because they are both at the top concerning excellent practices, etc. Others are trying to catch up. Replies to this message: merc1 (Sep 02, 2006 4:27 am)
#18562 of 24698 Re: HELM engines [tagman] by houdini1 Sep 01, 2006 (5:05 am)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 8:41 pm) Tag, in addition to all your other accomplishments, I see that you are now an expert on engine design. WOW. Lexus should be calling any second for more of your brilliant insights! Replies to this message: hpowders (Sep 01, 2006 6:46 am) tagman (Sep 01, 2006 7:15 am)
#18563 of 24698 Re: Lexus [tagman] by snapcracklepop Sep 01, 2006 (5:42 am)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 11:11 am) I agree, there needs to be more differentiation and distinction between the brands, Honda/Acura suffers it too although my TSX does look different enough from an Accord both exterior/interior wise to satisfy me.   Lexus/Toyota's gotten better over the years at increasing the gap between the two but it's clear to see the resemblance between Avalon's and LS's

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