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24697 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Lexus [houdini1] by syswei
Aug 31, 2006 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 11:25 am)

I agree with Tagman. If a company is going to ask customers to pay more for a product, they will probably have greater success, everything else being equal, if that product is differentiated from the lower-priced product...and that includes differentiation of appearance.
 
If Rolex and Timex were owned by the same corporate parent and you bought a Rolex, wouldn't you want it to look very different from a Timex?
 
As a consumer, I don't mind platform/parts sharing between Lexus and Toyota, even though it may hurt Lexus' prestige a bit. But I do feel that there should be more of an effort to diffentiate on the basis of appearance.
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Re: Lexus [syswei] by houdini1
Aug 31, 2006 (12:37 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Aug 31, 2006 11:36 am)

I guess I can see your point a little bit. But this is so far down on my priority list in making a buying decision that it hardly matters. That's all I'm saying.
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Re: Lexus [houdini1] by syswei
Aug 31, 2006 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 12:37 pm)

Actually, exterior styling isn't at the top of my priority list either. I figure, most of the time is spent INSIDE the car, not admiring it from outside. If I were single maybe it would be a different story.
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Re: Lexus [syswei] by tagman
Aug 31, 2006 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Aug 31, 2006 12:49 pm)

Actually, exterior styling isn't at the top of my priority list either.
 
Wow! That's quite a departure from the vast majority of consumers. Single or not.
 
TagMan
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Re: Lexus [tagman] by syswei
Aug 31, 2006 (1:29 pm)
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If styling was my top priority, I don't think I'd be a Lexus fan!
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Re: Lexus [syswei] by tagman
Aug 31, 2006 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Aug 31, 2006 1:29 pm)

If styling was my top priority, I don't think I'd be a Lexus fan!
 
lol . . . Is this "true confessions"?
 
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Re: Lexus [tagman] by syswei
Aug 31, 2006 (3:26 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 3:13 pm)

Is this "true confessions"?
 
I take pride in being intellectually honest, not one of the "my favorite brand can do no wrong" types, both germancarfan and lexican, that are all too common on this board and the 2007 LS board.
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Re: Lexus [syswei] by pat HOST
Aug 31, 2006 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Aug 31, 2006 3:26 pm)

Well, the "germancarfan" vs "lexican" needs to stop - let's get away from this us vs. them from here on out.
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Re: Lexus [pat] by houdini1
Aug 31, 2006 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Aug 31, 2006 3:33 pm)

We're trying Pat, we're trying!!
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Ford to sell off Aston, possibly Jag? by blkhemi
Aug 31, 2006 (5:29 pm)
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There was an AP report out today that suggested Ford is in the process of selling off bits and pieces or maybe all of Aston Martin to the highest bidder.
 
The report suggested that automaker can no longer dump cash into the not to profitable brand. While other PAG members may be spared, like Volvo and Land Rover, Jaguar is up for discussion
 
The company has long said that Jaguar is not performing as designed when the takeover was implemented in '89. The lower profits over the years has left the parent company up in arms over what to do about the cash hog.
 
I got a brilliant idea for both. For Aston, the 4-door sedan MUST BE BUILT!! With even Porsche going 4-doors, there is absolutely no holding back now. Also expand the line-up, with only 3 cars, it's a major struggle. Altho the V8 Vantage is wonderful ride, it ain't no 911. Tweak it some more. The DB9 needs to seperate itself more from it's forebears for more distinction.
 
Jaguar, let's see: First off, take the X and S-Type's out back and put them out of their misery. DO NOT USE A FORD CLONE PRODUCT, as is the case with the X's Mondeo, and the S' Lincoln LS/Ford T-Bird. Build a sporty LPS that can fully compete with the 3 Series, A4, IS, G35, and TL seriously. The S-Type is a definete must do. Use one of those wonderful Euro chassis that we Americans can only dream of for the next S-Type.
 
Easier said than done, I know. But without fresh product, you're doomed to fail. At least GM appears to be on the right track with brand finally putting priorities first. The brand will take Pontiac all RWD and Chevy will go back to the roots with Impala heading upmarket in price and size. Cadillac is said to take the next DTS way upmarket with the 3rd gen Northstar making 400+ hp out of the box.
 
Times a changin for the domestics. For the best hopefully.

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