High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18517 of 24700 Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by designman Aug 31, 2006 (10:51 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am) You could be right. I can see it going either way or it could have no effect at all. I think most of the buying public is blind to platform sharing anyway.
#18518 of 24700 Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by tagman Aug 31, 2006 (10:51 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am) I hate to say this but this whole idea of platform sharing between Chrysler/MB platform sounds incredibly self- destructive for the Stuttgart side of DB. Disagree. It's a benefit to Chrysler. Unless . . . it goes beyond the platform and . . . we start to see Dodge "Hemi" engines in the MB's (lol)! I can see it now . . . no more AMG needed . . . introducing the new S-Class Hemi. TagMan
#18521 of 24700 Re: Lexus [merc1] by houdini1 Aug 31, 2006 (11:03 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 30, 2006 9:03 pm) I guess I just don't get your point about the Camry and the LS looking the same, or having a resemblance. Why do you care? Why does this bother you so much? Is the E Class diminished because Chysler now uses their platform? Not really. It is just good financial planning and trying to save money to make a better car. Please get over this. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 11:11 am) houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 11:25 am) syswei (Aug 31, 2006 11:36 am) and 9 more... merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:25 pm) houdini1 (Sep 01, 2006 4:57 am) and 1 more... snapcracklepop (Sep 01, 2006 5:42 am) merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:23 pm)
#18522 of 24700 Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by ivan_99 Aug 31, 2006 (11:06 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am) I hate to say this but this whole idea of platform sharing between Chrysler/MB platform sounds incredibly self- destructive for the Stuttgart side of DB. It all depends on what a “platform” is. I remember reading a discussion on the similarities between a Volvo S40 and the Mazda 3. They officially share the same platform; but have different engines, HVAC, suspensions, floorboards, insulation…practically everything is different. I think a “platform” really doesn’t cost much to reproduce…it’s the R&D of it that drives up the costs…so sharing just that would make sense. While I would like to be able to buy an MB E class for 24K I don’t think you’ll ever be able to…irregardless of what badge is on the front. Replies to this message: dewey (Sep 01, 2006 1:26 pm) nvbanker (Sep 01, 2006 4:20 pm) dewey (Sep 01, 2006 5:07 pm)
#18523 of 24700 Re: Lexus [houdini1] by tagman Aug 31, 2006 (11:11 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 11:03 am) Let me chime in on this just a little. I think it is typical to see design themes that proliferate throughout an entire marque's model line up. We see it with Mercedes, clearly, from the C-Class right up to the S-Class. We see it with BMW and with Audi and with Jaguar. However, the point is that Toyota is a DIFFERENT marque than Lexus, even if it is the same parent company, and whether or not platforms are shared, the styling and design similarities do not necessarily need to be so similar. So there is some merit to the idea of creating further distance between the Lexus and Toyota marques in terms of style and design, regardless of any platform sharing. TagMan Replies to this message: houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 11:25 am) syswei (Aug 31, 2006 11:36 am) houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 12:37 pm) and 8 more... merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:25 pm) houdini1 (Sep 01, 2006 4:57 am) merc1 (Sep 02, 2006 4:27 am) snapcracklepop (Sep 01, 2006 5:42 am)
#18524 of 24700 Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by ctsang Aug 31, 2006 (11:12 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am) The MB badge tells people that you are rich. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 31, 2006 11:14 am)
#18525 of 24700 Re: It's a no-brainer [ctsang] by tagman Aug 31, 2006 (11:14 am)
Replying to: ctsang (Aug 31, 2006 11:12 am) The MB badge tells people that you are rich. One reason that some buy a MB, perhaps, or other prestige vehicle, but certainly not the only reason. After all, Mercedes are expensive, and financial clout is a pre-requisite for the most part . . . unlike, say, a Toyota Corolla. But, you'd be amazed at how many rich people drive economy cars!!!!! That logic applies to anything that is expensive. A yacht or private jet also say you are rich, wouldn't you agree? But a lot of rich people fly coach!! TagMan
#18526 of 24700 Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by lexusguy Aug 31, 2006 (11:22 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am) I hate to say this but this whole idea of platform sharing between Chrysler/MB platform sounds incredibly self- destructive for the Stuttgart side of DB. I thought about mentioning that. If its done right, I think they can get away with it. Sharing V6s is ok, many automakers do that. V8s however, should remain M-B exclusive. Replies to this message: dewey (Sep 01, 2006 1:41 pm) tagman (Sep 01, 2006 2:05 pm) dewey (Sep 01, 2006 2:44 pm) lexusguy (Sep 01, 2006 4:36 pm) dewey (Sep 01, 2006 5:11 pm) and 1 more...