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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: It's a no-brainer [designman] by dewey
Aug 31, 2006 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: designman (Aug 31, 2006 9:34 am)

MAKE$ $ENSE FOR CHRY$LER NOT FOR MERCEDE$.
 
Unless ofcourse the future 300 is based on the current E Class platform. By then there will be a new generation platform of the E Class that will be different from the platform of the future 300 . If that happens then the mystique of MBs will be preserved.
 
Otherwise MB gets the short end of the stick and their distinct reputation will be tarnished and many will ponder the reasons for spending the extra $$$ for a Benz.
 
I myself have difficulty understanding how anyone could choose a Lexus ES over a V6 Camry.
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Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by lexusguy
Aug 31, 2006 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:06 am)

I myself have difficulty understanding how anyone could choose a Lexus ES over a V6 Camry.
 
Toyota could probably offer a "super luxury package" for the V6 Camry with similar equipment as the ES, with a price of maybe $36K. No one would buy it. Why would they, when they could get an Acura TL for the same money? The Lexus gets you the better warranty, infinitely better service department, and of course the Lexus badge that people are willing to pay for. If you don't want it, dont buy.
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Re: It's a no-brainer [lexusguy] by dewey
Aug 31, 2006 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Aug 31, 2006 10:25 am)

The Lexus gets you the better warranty, infinitely better service department, and of course the Lexus badge that people are willing to pay for. If you don't want it, dont buy.
 
LOL and what would the MB badge give you over a Chrysler?
 
Better service? Better reliability? I dont think so!!
 
I hate to say this but this whole idea of platform sharing between Chrysler/MB platform sounds incredibly self- destructive for the Stuttgart side of DB.
 
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Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by designman
Aug 31, 2006 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am)

You could be right. I can see it going either way or it could have no effect at all. I think most of the buying public is blind to platform sharing anyway.
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Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by tagman
Aug 31, 2006 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am)

I hate to say this but this whole idea of platform sharing between Chrysler/MB platform sounds incredibly self- destructive for the Stuttgart side of DB.
 
Disagree. It's a benefit to Chrysler.
 
Unless . . . it goes beyond the platform and . . . we start to see Dodge "Hemi" engines in the MB's (lol)!
 
I can see it now . . . no more AMG needed . . . introducing the new S-Class Hemi.
 
TagMan
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Re: Lexus [merc1] by houdini1
Aug 31, 2006 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Aug 30, 2006 9:03 pm)

I guess I just don't get your point about the Camry and the LS looking the same, or having a resemblance. Why do you care? Why does this bother you so much? Is the E Class diminished because Chysler now uses their platform? Not really. It is just good financial planning and trying to save money to make a better car. Please get over this.
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Re: It's a no-brainer [dewey] by ivan_99
Aug 31, 2006 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 10:28 am)

I hate to say this but this whole idea of platform sharing between Chrysler/MB platform sounds incredibly self- destructive for the Stuttgart side of DB.
 
It all depends on what a “platform” is.
 
I remember reading a discussion on the similarities between a Volvo S40 and the Mazda 3. They officially share the same platform; but have different engines, HVAC, suspensions, floorboards, insulation…practically everything is different.
 
I think a “platform” really doesn’t cost much to reproduce…it’s the R&D of it that drives up the costs…so sharing just that would make sense.
 
While I would like to be able to buy an MB E class for 24K I don’t think you’ll ever be able to…irregardless of what badge is on the front.

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