High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18493 of 24699 Re: The only company..... [killerbunny] by dandrews1 Aug 30, 2006 (5:54 pm)
Replying to: killerbunny (Aug 28, 2006 1:34 pm) I agree totally - but the Porsche sales guy wouldn't let me offroad the Cayenne when I was test driving it. On the other hand, the Land Rover sales guy grinned from ear to ear when I asked to off-road it... so I took a brand new 2006 LR3 HSE demo in behind some houses that were being built in a new development near the dealership.. the area where the bulldozers and service vehicles go... anyways, it had rained that morning, and it was all mud and ruts and sloppy, slippery goodness.... It does accelerate as well as pretty much any other HELM SUV - considering it weighs in around 5700 lbs(depending on options), but it can go places where few others dare to tread. Hence the reason why I now have a new Land Rover, instead of a new Cayenne, or BMW X3/X5 sitting in the driveway. Thinking of doing the Moab, Utah Land Rover experience soon too... looks spectacular! [Side Note] I didn't buy the demo. After I got back into the sales center, the sales guy said that while we were out, some couple had been dealing with the other sales guy and had bought the demo... I brought it back coverred in mud everywhere - even over the roof, and buried in 24" of muck up the sides of the wheel wells. You shoulda seen their faces when I drove back on the lot with it! Absolutely Priceless. /DA
#18494 of 24699 Re: Lexus [houdini1] by merc1 Aug 30, 2006 (9:03 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 29, 2006 2:33 am) Hmmm...I guess the same could be said about Mercedes and Chrysler. Why won't some people admit that? Some seem to be obsessed with this notion concerning Toyota/Lexus but they must get nervous when they see the R7 sitting alongside a Pacifica. Because there is nothing to admit, Chrysler and Mercedes don't have a image problem between the brands like Toyota and Lexus does. Only the ill-informed would think a Mercedes is a Chrysler in better clothes. Similar in design and them, but nothing else and one isn't an extension of the other. Unlike the R and Pacifica, the LS and Camry look the same inside and out, right down to their dash designs. M Replies to this message: brightness04 (Aug 30, 2006 9:57 pm) dewey (Aug 31, 2006 6:09 am) ctsang (Aug 31, 2006 8:19 am) and 6 more... greasykid1 (Sep 01, 2006 1:54 pm) dewey (Sep 01, 2006 1:56 pm) hpowders (Aug 31, 2006 3:42 am) merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 3:49 am) hpowders (Aug 31, 2006 4:59 am) houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 11:03 am) tagman (Aug 31, 2006 11:11 am) houdini1 (Aug 31, 2006 11:25 am) and 10 more... merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:25 pm) and 2 more... snapcracklepop (Sep 01, 2006 5:42 am) merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:23 pm)
#18495 of 24699 Re: Bad News for Blutec [dewey] by merc1 Aug 30, 2006 (9:07 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 29, 2006 12:51 pm) I'm not sure why this is big news now, it has been known for months that the Bluetec wouldn't be sold in all 50 states. That is why MB has been saying 2008 because by then maybe the EPA will approve the urea injection that makes up Mercedes' "Adblue" system. http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060829/FREE/60828027/1041 M Replies to this message: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 6:02 am)
#18496 of 24699 Re: MB diesel [greasykid1] by merc1 Aug 30, 2006 (9:11 pm)
Replying to: greasykid1 (Aug 29, 2006 2:07 pm) I'm sure that you are correct about Bluetech;however it will have a more complicated emmissions system that will incease the cost of the car and be more expensive to maintain. Practically the same performance and milage as the current CDI. Yes, but only a few dollars hardly worth mentioning and the technology will be cheaper for MB to spread across literally their entire model range compared to getting the old I6 to meet new standards. M
#18500 of 24699 Re: Lexus [merc1] by brightness04 Aug 30, 2006 (9:57 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 30, 2006 9:03 pm) We are talking about cars, not interior decorations, furnitures or toy cars. What matters most for cars is platform and drive train. MB and Chrysler _is_ (one and the same company) doing a lot of platform and drive train sharing . . . probably more to come in the future simply because that's how economy of scale works. LS and Camry are certainly far more different from each other than, say Crossfire from SLK. Replies to this message: dewey (Aug 31, 2006 6:09 am) ctsang (Aug 31, 2006 8:19 am) dewey (Aug 31, 2006 8:43 am) and 2 more... merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 8:19 pm) and 2 more... greasykid1 (Sep 01, 2006 1:54 pm) dewey (Sep 01, 2006 1:56 pm)
#18502 of 24699 Re: Lexus [merc1] by hpowders Aug 31, 2006 (3:42 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Aug 30, 2006 9:03 pm) "The LS and Camry look the same inside and out, right down to their dash designs." Well, I've seen the new Camry and from what I saw of the new LS on MotorWeek, the LS is far better looking than the Camry. It isn't even close, even though there is a distinct family resemblance. Replies to this message: merc1 (Aug 31, 2006 3:49 am) hpowders (Aug 31, 2006 4:59 am)