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24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am) Unfortunately that is never ever going to happen here or in the auto rags. Truth and facts can only prevail when passion is not involved. Unfortunately in the case of autos most auto reviewers (professional or unprofessional) view cars quite passionately and their opinions will be tainted by their biases. Show me any auto reviewer that does not have any bias whatsoever and I will show you a reviewer who views cars with complete indifference. Such an indifferent and rational reviewer will end up working for Consumers Report and it is those kind of reviews that I tend to avoid.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 5:39 pm) Also the implimentation of urea etc.will increase vehicle costs. This info was covered in detail in a recent copy of the MBA club "STAR" magazine.
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am) Of course some are more biased than others. |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 11:26 am) What I don't like is false statements or twisted data. That's different, unacceptable, and THAT is what I was referring to. Yes, I agree that the unemotional reviewers belong at Consumer Reports, but I'd swear, IMO, even those guys are biased, too! TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 11:32 am) With this kind of negative bias from LA Times is it any wonder why GM threated to pull ads from their publications? Although I dont think Toyota is going to make the same threat to LA Times.
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 11:53 am) (Sorry Dewey-most of this is not directed at you.) Whether we as posters or whether professional auto reviewers are biased or not completely misses the point. Whether I agree with the reviewer's comments about Lexus, the company, also misses the point. This guy was using the guise of a review as an excuse to spew vitriol against Lexus the company, when he should have been telling us about the brakes, steering and handling of the 2007 Lexus LS460 to the best of his ability, biases or not. Anyway, enough said. Time to move on.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 12:06 pm) I do think these kinds of reviews are more common than you are suggesting, and we will continue to see more of these biased views, some for the positive as well as the negative. Collectively they paint a more colorful picture, IMO. Heck, some of these reviews in the past have been so overly positive that they have made me wonder if the author is on the auto manufacturer's payroll. And others have been nothing more than a re-print of the manufacturer's press release. When the dust settles, and many more reviews are in, the Lexus LS460 will be much better understood, and we will all realize that the vehicle has legs to stand on. Ultimately we will all test drive it, and then we will truly know for ourselves what the LS460 really is. In the meantime, I'm not about to freak out over a few overly biased reviews (positive or negative). It's nothing new as far as I'm concerned. And, YES, it is time to move on. TagMan
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Replying to: greasykid1 (Aug 30, 2006 11:26 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 1:14 pm) Telling us that "Lexus ranks near zero Kelvin on the prestige thermometer"-what's that got to do with a review of the 2007 LS? it has no place there and demonstrates that this reviewer cannot be taken seriously. Tell me if the brakes are grabby, not that "Lexus has the emotional appeal of a public golf course." If these out of place comments annoyed me, I can't begin to imagine what Lexus lovers must feel. -273 degrees celsius is pretty cold even for me. 
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 1:41 pm) |
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