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24700 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Another review [hpowders] by designman
Aug 30, 2006 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am)

The LA Times should not have printed it.
 
I would be perfectly happy if newspapers didn't have auto reviews. Most of them register zero on my Richter scale.
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Re: Another review [houdini1] by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 10:13 am)

Better things will come when Car and Driver and Road & Track finally review the vehicle.
Perhaps AutoWeek will review it in October. If I see a date, I will post it.
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by tagman
Aug 30, 2006 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:26 am)

I'm marking this day on my calendar.
 
headline news: hpowders stands up for OBJECTIVITY!
 
 
 
TagMan
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Strategic Vision Total Quality Awards by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (10:33 am)
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From BMW Magazine:
 
"Strategic Vision's Total Quality Index is a measure of new vehicle owner satisfaction. It asks buyers to rate all aspects of the ownership experience, from buying and owning to driving."
 
"For the second year in a row, BMW's 7 Series topped the Luxury Car segment of SVTQ Awards. BMW repeated as the highest scoring brand, its seventh time to do so in eight years."
 
Always good to read, although I have never heard of SVTQ.
 
Has anyone heard of these guys?
 
Probably 4 BMW middle-management guys sitting at a table.
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Re: Another review [tagman] by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:28 am)

I know you get my point and are just having a little fun with me.
 
I can't believe the editor allowed the Lexus hate-speech to be published under the guise of a "review."
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by houdini1
Aug 30, 2006 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am)

Well....maybe now!
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by tagman
Aug 30, 2006 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am)

I know you get my point.
 
Yes. And you know I agree with it . . . to a point. Journalists do have a little subjective latitude, as it goes with the territory. But a blatent biased misuse of that latitude is shameful, IMO.
 
Even the car rags are sometimes guilty, and I have to wonder why.
 
As I've said before . . . stay with the truth and the facts please.
 
TagMan
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Re: Another review [tagman] by dewey
Aug 30, 2006 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am)

As I've said before . . . stay with the truth and the facts please
 
Unfortunately that is never ever going to happen here or in the auto rags. Truth and facts can only prevail when passion is not involved. Unfortunately in the case of autos most auto reviewers (professional or unprofessional) view cars quite passionately and their opinions will be tainted by their biases.
 
Show me any auto reviewer that does not have any bias whatsoever and I will show you a reviewer who views cars with complete indifference. Such an indifferent and rational reviewer will end up working for Consumers Report and it is those kind of reviews that I tend to avoid.
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Re: Bluetec costs by greasykid1
Aug 30, 2006 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 5:39 pm)

My reference to high maintenance and increased price refer ONLY the Bluetec emmission systems. Present data states that the urea system will have to be serviced regularly.Present intervals mentioned are 10,000 mi.
 
Also the implimentation of urea etc.will increase vehicle costs. This info was covered in detail in a recent copy of the MBA club "STAR" magazine.
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Re: Another review [tagman] by syswei
Aug 30, 2006 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am)

No poster on this forum (myself included) is truly unbiased, so how can we expect journalists to be any different?
 
Of course some are more biased than others.

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