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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am) I'm a BMW person so what I say is colored by that point of view. It's expected. I am not being paid by a newspaper to give a supposedly unbiased review which turns out to be nothing more than a personal vendetta against Lexus. I came away with absolutely nothing from that review except that the reviewer is biased against Lexus as a company. The LA Times should not have printed it. It is a disservice to their readers who are about to shop this vehicle. There is a higher principle at stake here. It's called journalistic integrity. I may personally dislike the LS, but I will surely defend the right of someone who wants to shop this car to be able to read a comprehensive, unbiased review that will help him in his decision-making. If I am running a newspaper and one of my music critics hates Verdi, why would I send him to review Aida?
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am) I would be perfectly happy if newspapers didn't have auto reviews. Most of them register zero on my Richter scale. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 10:13 am) Perhaps AutoWeek will review it in October. If I see a date, I will post it.
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:26 am) headline news: hpowders stands up for OBJECTIVITY!  TagMan
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From BMW Magazine: "Strategic Vision's Total Quality Index is a measure of new vehicle owner satisfaction. It asks buyers to rate all aspects of the ownership experience, from buying and owning to driving." "For the second year in a row, BMW's 7 Series topped the Luxury Car segment of SVTQ Awards. BMW repeated as the highest scoring brand, its seventh time to do so in eight years." Always good to read, although I have never heard of SVTQ. Has anyone heard of these guys? Probably 4 BMW middle-management guys sitting at a table. |
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:28 am) I can't believe the editor allowed the Lexus hate-speech to be published under the guise of a "review."
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am) |
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am) Yes. And you know I agree with it . . . to a point. Journalists do have a little subjective latitude, as it goes with the territory. But a blatent biased misuse of that latitude is shameful, IMO. Even the car rags are sometimes guilty, and I have to wonder why. As I've said before . . . stay with the truth and the facts please. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:56 am) Unfortunately that is never ever going to happen here or in the auto rags. Truth and facts can only prevail when passion is not involved. Unfortunately in the case of autos most auto reviewers (professional or unprofessional) view cars quite passionately and their opinions will be tainted by their biases. Show me any auto reviewer that does not have any bias whatsoever and I will show you a reviewer who views cars with complete indifference. Such an indifferent and rational reviewer will end up working for Consumers Report and it is those kind of reviews that I tend to avoid.
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