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24697 messages,  Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Another review [designman] by syswei
Aug 30, 2006 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am)

Heh heh! Good one, designman!
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Re: Another review [designman] by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am)

The big difference here is I am free to express my opinion on Edmunds.
I'm a BMW person so what I say is colored by that point of view. It's expected.
 
I am not being paid by a newspaper to give a supposedly unbiased review which turns out to be nothing more than a personal vendetta against Lexus.
 
I came away with absolutely nothing from that review except that the reviewer is biased against Lexus as a company.
 
The LA Times should not have printed it.
It is a disservice to their readers who are about to shop this vehicle.
 
There is a higher principle at stake here. It's called journalistic integrity.
 
I may personally dislike the LS, but I will surely defend the right of someone who wants to shop this car to be able to read a comprehensive, unbiased review that will help him in his decision-making.
 
If I am running a newspaper and one of my music critics hates Verdi, why would I send him to review Aida?
 
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by houdini1
Aug 30, 2006 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am)

Bravo, HP. I said essentially the same thing about the terrible Q7 review. I don't particularly like the looks of the Q7 but I hate vendetta style hatchet jobs.
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by designman
Aug 30, 2006 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am)

The LA Times should not have printed it.
 
I would be perfectly happy if newspapers didn't have auto reviews. Most of them register zero on my Richter scale.
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Re: Another review [houdini1] by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (10:26 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 10:13 am)

Better things will come when Car and Driver and Road & Track finally review the vehicle.
Perhaps AutoWeek will review it in October. If I see a date, I will post it.
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by tagman
Aug 30, 2006 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:26 am)

I'm marking this day on my calendar.
 
headline news: hpowders stands up for OBJECTIVITY!
 
 
 
TagMan
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Strategic Vision Total Quality Awards by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (10:33 am)
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From BMW Magazine:
 
"Strategic Vision's Total Quality Index is a measure of new vehicle owner satisfaction. It asks buyers to rate all aspects of the ownership experience, from buying and owning to driving."
 
"For the second year in a row, BMW's 7 Series topped the Luxury Car segment of SVTQ Awards. BMW repeated as the highest scoring brand, its seventh time to do so in eight years."
 
Always good to read, although I have never heard of SVTQ.
 
Has anyone heard of these guys?
 
Probably 4 BMW middle-management guys sitting at a table.
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Re: Another review [tagman] by hpowders
Aug 30, 2006 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:28 am)

I know you get my point and are just having a little fun with me.
 
I can't believe the editor allowed the Lexus hate-speech to be published under the guise of a "review."
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by houdini1
Aug 30, 2006 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am)

Well....maybe now!
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Re: Another review [hpowders] by tagman
Aug 30, 2006 (10:56 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am)

I know you get my point.
 
Yes. And you know I agree with it . . . to a point. Journalists do have a little subjective latitude, as it goes with the territory. But a blatent biased misuse of that latitude is shameful, IMO.
 
Even the car rags are sometimes guilty, and I have to wonder why.
 
As I've said before . . . stay with the truth and the facts please.
 
TagMan

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