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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#18471 of 24726 Re: Another review [ivan_99]
Aug 30, 2006 (9:21 am)
Thanks for this informative link, Ivan_99.
The reviewer seems to have more of a bone to pick with Lexus as a brand than actually contributing anything meaningful about the 2007 LS itself. Sounds like he had this review written before he even approached the vehicle.
He writes "The brand still ranks near zero Kelvin on the prestige thermometer" and "Compared to luxury brands like Mercedes Benz, Cadillac(!), BMW and Audi, Lexus has the emotional appeal of a public golf course."
If you're going to review a car, tell us about the car and don't use a review as a thinly disguised personal vendetta against Lexus.
Given this reviewer's pre-conceived distaste for Lexus, the vehicle didn't stand a chance.
Let's hope that we can soon read some unbiased comprehensive reviews of the 2007 LS. We don't need biased hatchet jobs.
#18472 of 24726 Re: Another review [hpowders]
Aug 30, 2006 (9:37 am)
We don't need biased hatchet jobs.
Well at least we have these forums as a respite from such extremes.
#18473 of 24726 Re: Another review [designman]
Aug 30, 2006 (9:47 am)
Heh heh! Good one, designman!
#18474 of 24726 Re: Another review [designman]
Aug 30, 2006 (9:49 am)
The big difference here is I am free to express my opinion on Edmunds.
I'm a BMW person so what I say is colored by that point of view. It's expected.
I am not being paid by a newspaper to give a supposedly unbiased review which turns out to be nothing more than a personal vendetta against Lexus.
I came away with absolutely nothing from that review except that the reviewer is biased against Lexus as a company.
The LA Times should not have printed it.
It is a disservice to their readers who are about to shop this vehicle.
There is a higher principle at stake here. It's called journalistic integrity.
I may personally dislike the LS, but I will surely defend the right of someone who wants to shop this car to be able to read a comprehensive, unbiased review that will help him in his decision-making.
If I am running a newspaper and one of my music critics hates Verdi, why would I send him to review Aida?
#18475 of 24726 Re: Another review [hpowders]
Aug 30, 2006 (10:13 am)
Bravo, HP. I said essentially the same thing about the terrible Q7 review. I don't particularly like the looks of the Q7 but I hate vendetta style hatchet jobs.
#18476 of 24726 Re: Another review [hpowders]
Aug 30, 2006 (10:20 am)
The LA Times should not have printed it.
I would be perfectly happy if newspapers didn't have auto reviews. Most of them register zero on my Richter scale.
#18477 of 24726 Re: Another review [houdini1]
Aug 30, 2006 (10:26 am)
Better things will come when Car and Driver and Road & Track finally review the vehicle.
Perhaps AutoWeek will review it in October. If I see a date, I will post it.
#18478 of 24726 Re: Another review [hpowders]
Aug 30, 2006 (10:28 am)
I'm marking this day on my calendar.
headline news: hpowders stands up for OBJECTIVITY!
#18479 of 24726 Strategic Vision Total Quality Awards
Aug 30, 2006 (10:33 am)
From BMW Magazine:
"Strategic Vision's Total Quality Index is a measure of new vehicle owner satisfaction. It asks buyers to rate all aspects of the ownership experience, from buying and owning to driving."
"For the second year in a row, BMW's 7 Series topped the Luxury Car segment of SVTQ Awards. BMW repeated as the highest scoring brand, its seventh time to do so in eight years."
Always good to read, although I have never heard of SVTQ.
Has anyone heard of these guys?
Probably 4 BMW middle-management guys sitting at a table.
#18480 of 24726 Re: Another review [tagman]
Aug 30, 2006 (10:35 am)
I know you get my point and are just having a little fun with me.
I can't believe the editor allowed the Lexus hate-speech to be published under the guise of a "review."