High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18468 of 24700 Re: A unforgettably bad review [dewey] by houdini1 Aug 30, 2006 (8:59 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 6:26 am) Reminds me of some of the European LS reviews. Maybe it is just their style when they review an auto from a different country that may threaten one of theirs (Range Rover). Note how your european buddy could not resist a dig at us Americans! I do not personally care for this auto myself but this was just a terrible piece of trash.
#18469 of 24700 Another review by ivan_99 Aug 30, 2006 (9:02 am)
Passion takes a back seat Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 9:15 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:21 am) designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am) syswei (Aug 30, 2006 9:47 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am) and 16 more...
#18470 of 24700 Re: Another review [ivan_99] by tagman Aug 30, 2006 (9:15 am)
Replying to: ivan_99 (Aug 30, 2006 9:02 am) ivan_99 - While not a "technical performance" review, as we will get from the car rags, nor is it objective by any means, it does, however, express what some see as the difference between the Japanese Lexus LS and the European HELMs. TagMan
#18471 of 24700 Re: Another review [ivan_99] by hpowders Aug 30, 2006 (9:21 am)
Replying to: ivan_99 (Aug 30, 2006 9:02 am) Thanks for this informative link, Ivan_99. The reviewer seems to have more of a bone to pick with Lexus as a brand than actually contributing anything meaningful about the 2007 LS itself. Sounds like he had this review written before he even approached the vehicle. He writes "The brand still ranks near zero Kelvin on the prestige thermometer" and "Compared to luxury brands like Mercedes Benz, Cadillac(!), BMW and Audi, Lexus has the emotional appeal of a public golf course." If you're going to review a car, tell us about the car and don't use a review as a thinly disguised personal vendetta against Lexus. Given this reviewer's pre-conceived distaste for Lexus, the vehicle didn't stand a chance. Let's hope that we can soon read some unbiased comprehensive reviews of the 2007 LS. We don't need biased hatchet jobs. Replies to this message: designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am) syswei (Aug 30, 2006 9:47 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am) houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 10:13 am) and 14 more... designman (Aug 30, 2006 10:20 am)
#18472 of 24700 Re: Another review [hpowders] by designman Aug 30, 2006 (9:37 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:21 am) We don't need biased hatchet jobs. Well at least we have these forums as a respite from such extremes. Replies to this message: syswei (Aug 30, 2006 9:47 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am) houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 10:13 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:26 am) and 13 more... designman (Aug 30, 2006 10:20 am)
#18473 of 24700 Re: Another review [designman] by syswei Aug 30, 2006 (9:47 am)
Replying to: designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am) Heh heh! Good one, designman!
#18474 of 24700 Re: Another review [designman] by hpowders Aug 30, 2006 (9:49 am)
Replying to: designman (Aug 30, 2006 9:37 am) The big difference here is I am free to express my opinion on Edmunds. I'm a BMW person so what I say is colored by that point of view. It's expected. I am not being paid by a newspaper to give a supposedly unbiased review which turns out to be nothing more than a personal vendetta against Lexus. I came away with absolutely nothing from that review except that the reviewer is biased against Lexus as a company. The LA Times should not have printed it. It is a disservice to their readers who are about to shop this vehicle. There is a higher principle at stake here. It's called journalistic integrity. I may personally dislike the LS, but I will surely defend the right of someone who wants to shop this car to be able to read a comprehensive, unbiased review that will help him in his decision-making. If I am running a newspaper and one of my music critics hates Verdi, why would I send him to review Aida? Replies to this message: houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 10:13 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:26 am) tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:28 am) and 12 more... designman (Aug 30, 2006 10:20 am)
#18475 of 24700 Re: Another review [hpowders] by houdini1 Aug 30, 2006 (10:13 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am) Bravo, HP. I said essentially the same thing about the terrible Q7 review. I don't particularly like the looks of the Q7 but I hate vendetta style hatchet jobs. Replies to this message: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:26 am) tagman (Aug 30, 2006 10:28 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 10:35 am) and 11 more...
#18476 of 24700 Re: Another review [hpowders] by designman Aug 30, 2006 (10:20 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 9:49 am) The LA Times should not have printed it. I would be perfectly happy if newspapers didn't have auto reviews. Most of them register zero on my Richter scale.