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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Consider BMW's new Remote Park Assist feature. The system allows a driver to stand outside the car and guide the vehicle into a parking spot using a button on a control key that communicates with ultrasound sensors mounted in the bumpers. To avoid mishaps, the car stops immediately if the driver lets go of the button. SOURCE: WALL STREET JOURNAL link title I do sense some kind of disaster here with the above quote. If idrive can make the most trivial tasks complex can you imagine depending on a BMW designed remote Park-Assist system. In fact I would have more confidence in depending on my 16 year old nephew (still learning to drive and park) to park my car than being fully dependent on a BMW remote system.
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 7:16 am) I wouldn't worry too much about the reliability factor. BMW has made significant improvements here, as even CR has noticed. I feel confident enough in BMW that I will predict right here that within the next 2 years BMW will overtake Lexus in quality and reliability. There are already cracks showing in Toyota/Lexus' armor. I look for this trend to continue. BMW up. Lexus down. 
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:20 am) While I have previously predicted a slight downtick in Lexus' overall quality, due to the large number of new sophisticated technologies that they are employing . . . I am afraid that I do not agree with your statement at all. I think it is necessary for BMW to increase its quality and reliability, as it is for MB, and I do expect that to happen . . . but they will not overtake Lexus within two years, if ever, in terms of overall statistical reliability, IMO. More likely, look for a shrinking reliability gap between the marques, as a result of improved reliability, as well-demonstrated in the last few years by our respected friends at Jaguar. TagMan |
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:20 am) BMW has improved to the point where, if I could get a 7 with AWD, I would certainly consider it rather than an LS. However, I agree with Tagman on your prediction, and would place money against you.
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Replying to: syswei (Aug 30, 2006 7:55 am) Almost as sure as those puts I took on the price of crude last week. That should get me a week at the beach.
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Replying to: syswei (Aug 30, 2006 7:55 am) I would be shopping the MB S-Class and possibly the new LS if the reviews get consistently better than what I have already read. I want to read more about the brakes. I am fully aware of BMW's limitations, and it starts and ends with the interior appointments. I have never been a cheerleader for the BMW 7, and still feel this vehicle runs contrary to this automaker's "vision." |
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Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 6:26 am) |
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Passion takes a back seat
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Replying to: ivan_99 (Aug 30, 2006 9:02 am) TagMan |
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