High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18455 of 24699 Re: A unforgettably bad review [dewey] by tagman Aug 30, 2006 (6:32 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 6:26 am) has to be one of the worst written auto reviews I have ever read in my life You're not kidding! Worthless trash! What TagMan would say to the author of that review: YOU'RE FIRED! Replies to this message: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 6:44 am)
#18456 of 24699 Re: A unforgettably bad review [tagman] by dewey Aug 30, 2006 (6:44 am)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 6:32 am) After being fired he can at least put one line on his very short resume: Knowledge about Rottweilers and their owners.
#18457 of 24699 Re: A unforgettably bad review [dewey] by hpowders Aug 30, 2006 (6:45 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 6:26 am) Yes. that was a pretty bad review. Wonder if he will review the LS460? I can see it now: "a pit-bull in sheep's clothing." He did like the GS450h. Replies to this message: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 6:58 am)
#18459 of 24699 Re: A unforgettably bad review [hpowders] by dewey Aug 30, 2006 (6:58 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 6:45 am) He did like the GS450h In that case he has very little knowledge about the Q7 and the GS450H.
#18460 of 24699 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [killerbunny] by lexusguy Aug 30, 2006 (7:08 am)
Replying to: killerbunny (Aug 29, 2006 8:42 pm) DB was not in its right mind when becoming DC. Shoulda picked a Japanese company to merge with. Look at Mazda and Nissan now. Subaru should be a great buy for BMW. Well, all of the cash they pumped into Mitsubishi went into a giant black hole, never to be seen again. At the time of the DCX merger, Nissan was headed for doom. I don't think that DB could've done nearly the job that Ghosn has turning Nissan around. Nissan could be where Mitsubishi is now if DB had "merged" with them instead. BMW buy Subaru? I thought most of GM's 20% stake was picked up by Toyota, and they are already building (or there are plans in place to build) Camrys at one of Subaru's under utilized US plants.
#18461 of 24699 Scary BMW Technology by dewey Aug 30, 2006 (7:16 am)
Consider BMW's new Remote Park Assist feature. The system allows a driver to stand outside the car and guide the vehicle into a parking spot using a button on a control key that communicates with ultrasound sensors mounted in the bumpers. To avoid mishaps, the car stops immediately if the driver lets go of the button. SOURCE: WALL STREET JOURNAL link title I do sense some kind of disaster here with the above quote. If idrive can make the most trivial tasks complex can you imagine depending on a BMW designed remote Park-Assist system. In fact I would have more confidence in depending on my 16 year old nephew (still learning to drive and park) to park my car than being fully dependent on a BMW remote system. Replies to this message: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:20 am) tagman (Aug 30, 2006 7:50 am) syswei (Aug 30, 2006 7:55 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:59 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 8:12 am) and 1 more...
#18462 of 24699 Re: Scary BMW Technology [dewey] by hpowders Aug 30, 2006 (7:20 am)
Replying to: dewey (Aug 30, 2006 7:16 am) Thanks for the link, but unfortunately, it is only available to WSJ subscribers. I wouldn't worry too much about the reliability factor. BMW has made significant improvements here, as even CR has noticed. I feel confident enough in BMW that I will predict right here that within the next 2 years BMW will overtake Lexus in quality and reliability. There are already cracks showing in Toyota/Lexus' armor. I look for this trend to continue. BMW up. Lexus down. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 7:50 am) syswei (Aug 30, 2006 7:55 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:59 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 8:12 am)
#18463 of 24699 Re: Scary BMW Technology [hpowders] by tagman Aug 30, 2006 (7:50 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:20 am) I feel confident enough in BMW that I will predict right here that within the next 2 years BMW will overtake Lexus in quality and reliability. While I have previously predicted a slight downtick in Lexus' overall quality, due to the large number of new sophisticated technologies that they are employing . . . I am afraid that I do not agree with your statement at all. I think it is necessary for BMW to increase its quality and reliability, as it is for MB, and I do expect that to happen . . . but they will not overtake Lexus within two years, if ever, in terms of overall statistical reliability, IMO. More likely, look for a shrinking reliability gap between the marques, as a result of improved reliability, as well-demonstrated in the last few years by our respected friends at Jaguar. TagMan
#18464 of 24699 Re: Scary BMW Technology [hpowders] by syswei Aug 30, 2006 (7:55 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:20 am) I will predict right here that within the next 2 years BMW will overtake Lexus in quality and reliability. BMW has improved to the point where, if I could get a 7 with AWD, I would certainly consider it rather than an LS. However, I agree with Tagman on your prediction, and would place money against you. Replies to this message: hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 7:59 am) hpowders (Aug 30, 2006 8:12 am)