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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#18453 of 24726 Re: DCX/MB [houdini1]
Aug 30, 2006 (6:25 am)
Allow me to post the history of the merger:
Chrysler merged in 1998 with Daimler-Benz to form DaimlerChrysler AG. This was initially touted as a merger of equals, but within a couple of years the truth was evident: it was a buyout of Chrysler by Daimler-Benz, with the latter being very much the dominant partner. As if on cue, Chrysler went into another of its financial tailspins soon after the merger, greatly depressing the stock price of the merged firm and causing serious alarm at headquarters in Germany, which sent new CEO, Jürgen Schrempp, to take charge. The Plymouth brand was phased out in 2001, and plans for cost-cutting by sharing of platforms and components began. The strongly-Mercedes-influenced Chrysler Crossfire was one of the first results of this program. A return to rear-wheel drive was announced, and in 2004, a new Chrysler 300 using this technology and a new Hemi V8 appeared and became a solid hit. Financial performance began to improve somewhat, with Chrysler now providing a significant share of DaimlerChrysler profits due to restructuring efforts at the Mercedes Car Group. The long-standing partnership with Mitsubishi was dissolved as DaimlerChrysler divested its stake in the firm due to diving Mitsubishi profits and sales worldwide.
On April 7, 2005, a conclusion was announced by U.S. District Judge Joseph Farnnan Jr. presiding over a bench trial in Wilmington, Delaware between Kirk Kerkorian and DaimlerChrysler AG regarding allegations that Jürgen Schrempp of Daimler Benz AG, prior to the 1998 merger, lied and manipulated the Security Exchange Commission and Chrysler Corporation's shareholders (the largest of which was Kirk Kerkorian's Tracinda Corporation) by touting the 1998 merger as a merger of equals, and not an outright acquisition. The judge found in favor of DaimlerChrysler. However, another case (brought by other shareholders, on the same merit as the Kerkorian case) was settled in 2003 for $300 million. The Kerkorian case took over one year to decide.
#18454 of 24726 A unforgettably bad review
Aug 30, 2006 (6:26 am)
The following link below has to be one of the worst written auto reviews I have ever read in my life . The writer of this Q7 review has more to say about Rottweilers, drug dealers, tattoed types and environmentalism than about the Q7 itself.
SOURCE: THE INDEPENDENT, LONDON EDITION
#18455 of 24726 Re: A unforgettably bad review [dewey]
Aug 30, 2006 (6:32 am)
has to be one of the worst written auto reviews I have ever read in my life
You're not kidding! Worthless trash!
What TagMan would say to the author of that review:
#18456 of 24726 Re: A unforgettably bad review [tagman]
Aug 30, 2006 (6:44 am)
After being fired he can at least put one line on his very short resume:
Knowledge about Rottweilers and their owners.
#18457 of 24726 Re: A unforgettably bad review [dewey]
Aug 30, 2006 (6:45 am)
Yes. that was a pretty bad review.
Wonder if he will review the LS460?
I can see it now: "a pit-bull in sheep's clothing."
He did like the GS450h.
#18459 of 24726 Re: A unforgettably bad review [hpowders]
Aug 30, 2006 (6:58 am)
He did like the GS450h
In that case he has very little knowledge about the Q7 and the GS450H.
#18460 of 24726 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [killerbunny]
Aug 30, 2006 (7:08 am)
DB was not in its right mind when becoming DC. Shoulda picked a Japanese company to merge with. Look at Mazda and Nissan now.
Subaru should be a great buy for BMW.
Well, all of the cash they pumped into Mitsubishi went into a giant black hole, never to be seen again. At the time of the DCX merger, Nissan was headed for doom. I don't think that DB could've done nearly the job that Ghosn has turning Nissan around. Nissan could be where Mitsubishi is now if DB had "merged" with them instead.
BMW buy Subaru? I thought most of GM's 20% stake was picked up by Toyota, and they are already building (or there are plans in place to build) Camrys at one of Subaru's under utilized US plants.
#18461 of 24726 Scary BMW Technology
Aug 30, 2006 (7:16 am)
Consider BMW's new Remote Park Assist feature. The system allows a driver to stand outside the car and guide the vehicle into a parking spot using a button on a control key that communicates with ultrasound sensors mounted in the bumpers. To avoid mishaps, the car stops immediately if the driver lets go of the button.
SOURCE: WALL STREET JOURNAL
I do sense some kind of disaster here with the above quote. If idrive can make the most trivial tasks complex can you imagine depending on a BMW designed remote Park-Assist system.
In fact I would have more confidence in depending on my 16 year old nephew (still learning to drive and park) to park my car than being fully dependent on a BMW remote system.
#18462 of 24726 Re: Scary BMW Technology [dewey]
Aug 30, 2006 (7:20 am)
Thanks for the link, but unfortunately, it is only available to WSJ subscribers.
I wouldn't worry too much about the reliability factor. BMW has made significant improvements here, as even CR has noticed.
I feel confident enough in BMW that I will predict right here that within the next 2 years BMW will overtake Lexus in quality and reliability.
There are already cracks showing in Toyota/Lexus' armor.
I look for this trend to continue.
BMW up. Lexus down.