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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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In Japan, Lexus sales fizzle while BMW sales sizzle by tagman
Aug 29, 2006 (6:44 pm)
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Here's an interesting article about the current sales condition for Lexus in its very own backyard.
 
Seems odd, but it is nonetheless true.
 
More interesting is to note the sales data for BMW in Japan.
 
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Re: Bluetec down, but not out [tagman] by blkhemi
Aug 29, 2006 (6:47 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 6:24 pm)

The German-spec S-Class offers a higher output version of the 3.0L Bluetec, to the tune of about 260hp and 400lb-ft of torque.
 
For sure, this will be the engine they'll put in the S and GL, as well as the ML-Class.
 
The '08 C-Class is due to be the first diesel passenger car to be 50 state certified early next year, just a couple of months ahead of the new A4/A6 TDI's and the 330d that BMW claim they won't send yet the car has been given the green light in the crash standards and EPA certifications earlier this month. Why go through this much trouble to certify a car that you don't plan on selling here? The 530d is scheduled to come also.
 
There is no question that MB will get 50-state compliance out of the Bluetec as it is that good. The JGC CDI will the first domestic model to be able to be 50-state legal. The Jeep will feature the water-vapor canister that spits out only water from the exhaust pipe. DCX is on a major roll.
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Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilbur by killerbunny
Aug 29, 2006 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm)

Regarding: It has been my observation that approximately 70% of LS drivers are senior citizens. On the highway I have seen many of them driving too slowly even though they have this big powerful V-8 at their disposal.
It's what I have found. Sorry if it frustrates you.

 
From my own experience, 100% of S-class drivers and 80% of 7-series and LS drivers are senior citizens.
 
Yeah, it does frustrate me. I want one of those NOW, at 30, not when I am at 70. But old people have got the wealth, well... it takes long to accumulate wealth
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Re: Bluetec down, but not out [blkhemi] by tagman
Aug 29, 2006 (8:29 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 6:47 pm)

And all that will just be the very beginning. It will get even better as time marches on.
 
The future looks bright for DCX / MB.
 
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Re: Bluetec down, but not out [tagman] by killerbunny
Aug 29, 2006 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 8:29 pm)

And all that will just be the very beginning. It will get even better as time marches on.
The future looks bright for DCX / MB.

 
Are you referring to the 30% news?
 
DB was not in its right mind when becoming DC. Shoulda picked a Japanese company to merge with. Look at Mazda and Nissan now.
 
Subaru should be a great buy for BMW.
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Re: Bluetec down, but not out [killerbunny] by tagman
Aug 30, 2006 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: killerbunny (Aug 29, 2006 8:42 pm)

Are you referring to the 30% news?
 
No. But there are those that frown on that business deal. It's all history now.
 
I am agreeing with blkhemi that the combined company (like it or not), is poised to do very well with its diesel engines in the immediate future and beyond.
 
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DCX/MB by houdini1
Aug 30, 2006 (6:19 am)
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I was under the impression that this merger was driven by Chrysler and that Chrysler actually acquired DB at a last shot at keeping DB solvent. That was the supposed in-the-know behind the scenes reasoning. MB really did not have a choice.
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Re: DCX/MB [houdini1] by tagman
Aug 30, 2006 (6:25 am)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Aug 30, 2006 6:19 am)

Allow me to post the history of the merger:
 
Daimler-Benz merger:
 
Chrysler merged in 1998 with Daimler-Benz to form DaimlerChrysler AG. This was initially touted as a merger of equals, but within a couple of years the truth was evident: it was a buyout of Chrysler by Daimler-Benz, with the latter being very much the dominant partner. As if on cue, Chrysler went into another of its financial tailspins soon after the merger, greatly depressing the stock price of the merged firm and causing serious alarm at headquarters in Germany, which sent new CEO, Jürgen Schrempp, to take charge. The Plymouth brand was phased out in 2001, and plans for cost-cutting by sharing of platforms and components began. The strongly-Mercedes-influenced Chrysler Crossfire was one of the first results of this program. A return to rear-wheel drive was announced, and in 2004, a new Chrysler 300 using this technology and a new Hemi V8 appeared and became a solid hit. Financial performance began to improve somewhat, with Chrysler now providing a significant share of DaimlerChrysler profits due to restructuring efforts at the Mercedes Car Group. The long-standing partnership with Mitsubishi was dissolved as DaimlerChrysler divested its stake in the firm due to diving Mitsubishi profits and sales worldwide.
 
On April 7, 2005, a conclusion was announced by U.S. District Judge Joseph Farnnan Jr. presiding over a bench trial in Wilmington, Delaware between Kirk Kerkorian and DaimlerChrysler AG regarding allegations that Jürgen Schrempp of Daimler Benz AG, prior to the 1998 merger, lied and manipulated the Security Exchange Commission and Chrysler Corporation's shareholders (the largest of which was Kirk Kerkorian's Tracinda Corporation) by touting the 1998 merger as a merger of equals, and not an outright acquisition. The judge found in favor of DaimlerChrysler. However, another case (brought by other shareholders, on the same merit as the Kerkorian case) was settled in 2003 for $300 million. The Kerkorian case took over one year to decide.
 
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A unforgettably bad review by dewey
Aug 30, 2006 (6:26 am)
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The following link below has to be one of the worst written auto reviews I have ever read in my life . The writer of this Q7 review has more to say about Rottweilers, drug dealers, tattoed types and environmentalism than about the Q7 itself.
 
SOURCE: THE INDEPENDENT, LONDON EDITION
 
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