High End Luxury Cars

24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#18443 of 24697 Autospies by hpowders Aug 29, 2006 (6:07 pm)
Just went over to Autospies and saw the first TV ad in the new campaign for the 2007 Lexus LS460. The first comment by somebody who viewed the ad was in essence that the new LS looks too much like a "5-er." I cleaned his comment up a bit. A little from the back, perhaps. Otherwise, I surely don't see it.
#18444 of 24697 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [blkhemi] by tagman Aug 29, 2006 (6:24 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 5:39 pm) If MB does anything right, it's diesel engines. Man, I'm with you on this. As Dewey pointed out, this is the engine I'm waiting for. It will be worth the wait, I have little doubt. The question is, which models will get it? I'm under the impression that we'll find the BlueTec in the E-Class and also in the new GL, but I just have to believe that it will work it's way into the S-Class sooner or later . . . it just plain makes so much sense to me to offer an S-Class diesel. TagMan Replies to this message: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 6:47 pm) tagman (Aug 29, 2006 8:29 pm) killerbunny (Aug 29, 2006 8:42 pm) and 2 more...
#18445 of 24697 In Japan, Lexus sales fizzle while BMW sales sizzle by tagman Aug 29, 2006 (6:44 pm)
Here's an interesting article about the current sales condition for Lexus in its very own backyard. Seems odd, but it is nonetheless true. More interesting is to note the sales data for BMW in Japan. link title TagMan
#18446 of 24697 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [tagman] by blkhemi Aug 29, 2006 (6:47 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 6:24 pm) The German-spec S-Class offers a higher output version of the 3.0L Bluetec, to the tune of about 260hp and 400lb-ft of torque. For sure, this will be the engine they'll put in the S and GL, as well as the ML-Class. The '08 C-Class is due to be the first diesel passenger car to be 50 state certified early next year, just a couple of months ahead of the new A4/A6 TDI's and the 330d that BMW claim they won't send yet the car has been given the green light in the crash standards and EPA certifications earlier this month. Why go through this much trouble to certify a car that you don't plan on selling here? The 530d is scheduled to come also. There is no question that MB will get 50-state compliance out of the Bluetec as it is that good. The JGC CDI will the first domestic model to be able to be 50-state legal. The Jeep will feature the water-vapor canister that spits out only water from the exhaust pipe. DCX is on a major roll. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 8:29 pm) killerbunny (Aug 29, 2006 8:42 pm) tagman (Aug 30, 2006 6:01 am) lexusguy (Aug 30, 2006 7:08 am)
#18448 of 24697 Re: Lexus and Porsche are symbols of excellence, many own both [stevekilbur by killerbunny Aug 29, 2006 (8:28 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Aug 29, 2006 2:18 pm) Regarding: It has been my observation that approximately 70% of LS drivers are senior citizens. On the highway I have seen many of them driving too slowly even though they have this big powerful V-8 at their disposal. It's what I have found. Sorry if it frustrates you. From my own experience, 100% of S-class drivers and 80% of 7-series and LS drivers are senior citizens. Yeah, it does frustrate me. I want one of those NOW, at 30, not when I am at 70. But old people have got the wealth, well... it takes long to accumulate wealth
#18449 of 24697 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [blkhemi] by tagman Aug 29, 2006 (8:29 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Aug 29, 2006 6:47 pm) And all that will just be the very beginning. It will get even better as time marches on. The future looks bright for DCX / MB. TagMan Replies to this message: killerbunny (Aug 29, 2006 8:42 pm) tagman (Aug 30, 2006 6:01 am) lexusguy (Aug 30, 2006 7:08 am)
#18450 of 24697 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [tagman] by killerbunny Aug 29, 2006 (8:42 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Aug 29, 2006 8:29 pm) And all that will just be the very beginning. It will get even better as time marches on. The future looks bright for DCX / MB. Are you referring to the 30% news? DB was not in its right mind when becoming DC. Shoulda picked a Japanese company to merge with. Look at Mazda and Nissan now. Subaru should be a great buy for BMW. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 6:01 am) lexusguy (Aug 30, 2006 7:08 am)
#18451 of 24697 Re: Bluetec down, but not out [killerbunny] by tagman Aug 30, 2006 (6:01 am)
Replying to: killerbunny (Aug 29, 2006 8:42 pm) Are you referring to the 30% news? No. But there are those that frown on that business deal. It's all history now. I am agreeing with blkhemi that the combined company (like it or not), is poised to do very well with its diesel engines in the immediate future and beyond. TagMan
#18452 of 24697 DCX/MB by houdini1 Aug 30, 2006 (6:19 am)
I was under the impression that this merger was driven by Chrysler and that Chrysler actually acquired DB at a last shot at keeping DB solvent. That was the supposed in-the-know behind the scenes reasoning. MB really did not have a choice. Replies to this message: tagman (Aug 30, 2006 6:25 am)